If Donald Trump's immigration plan came true, the results would be scary.

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  1. theBLADE1

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    But you can't tell him or his supporters actual facts. Factual information goes against their world and everything they have been taught to believe. Not all Republicans are calling for these types of specific policies but this is what mass deportation looks like.

    The Republican Party is the party of denying scientific facts and feasible economic policies. Donald Trump is a moron who has absolutely no presidential qualities and has the potential to be the nail in our country's coffin.
     
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    I'm against Donald Trump, but this is just ridiculous. Liberals should really stop peddling this type of nonsense.

    Trump is not anti-immigrant or against letting people in. He's stated explicitly that he just wants it done the right way... Both legally and with the correct precautions.
     
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    Are you denying That mass deportation like Trump is calling for would do what the video is saying? this isn't a left or right issue this is a factual issue.
     
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    First of all, I don't think it's possible for that to occur. But I'm sure he'd kick out as many illegal immigrants as he could, which again, would not make him anti-immigration.
     
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    What a fucking crock of shit. " oooh we wouldnt have enough people to pick vegetables. My oh my what shall we do now? The entire economy will collapse!" And what will we do with all these fast food positions available now ? "
    "Now actual citizens have to work these fast food jobs !! "
    The horror !! :rolleyes:
    We will have plenty of "field workers" dont worry the vegetables wont go unpicked.

    Lets hope that Trump gets at least half of what he wants done on the immigration issue.
     
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    Trump is against illegal immigration.
     
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  7. I don't doubt that the U.S. economy would take a hit to some degree if all illegals disappeared but to imply that the country would collapse is just absurd. Even more astounding is how some on the far left are now trying to act like breaking the law (illegal immigration) is somehow now justified and attacking people who want to see the law upheld.

    And for the record I support legalizing and thus giving citizenship to most illegals who have been here long enough and are not criminals and hold down jobs. It may not be fair (it is not fair compared to all the people who try and get here legally and wait for years and don't have the ability to walk across the border). However, I am willing to make that trade off especially considering the circumstances and the cost of rounding up all these people. And then we consider that most are not bad at all and are our hard working neighbors not just from the country immediately south of us but other great countries in the Americas.

    And lastly his idea of a wall/fence is not really that crazy since most of the world is doing it and realizes that non-stop mass immigration is not a smart idea.

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    It would be an economic and humanitarian disaster and we'd have to become a police state in order to effectively carry it out. It's a joke though. Nobody, not even Trump, is seriously contemplating deportation of 13 million people. It's just something Republicans tell their idiot base to get them whipped into a frenzy.
     
  9. ^ Yes we should also note that there are citizens who can do this job. One thing I like about Sanders was he was one of the few to talk about this. In fact many 'socialists' (true ones) are against mass immigration because it is a tool the capitalist use to divide and underpay people. Take care of the citizens first. "Oligarchs" if they exist would heavily profit off underpaying people and importing cheap labor.
     
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    Just put a temporary foreign worker program in for jobs that Americans don't want, you don't need to put up with illegals to fill up low paying jobs.
     
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    Hypothetically, the economy would take a temporary hit. Ultimately, though, others would take most of those jobs, legal immigration/people here on work visas would increase significantly, and wages would likely slightly increase due to the absence of a relatively cheap source of labor.

    It's a hypothetical, though, and Trump's plan is both immoral and detached from reality. If you tried to forcefully deport all the illegals in this country, you could very well have a civil war on your hands. But Trump must know these ideas are completely unrealistic, and he is just pandering to the xenophobic base. Crazy to think Trump is probably the best out of the GOP field.
     
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    OR those jobs would be filled by legal citizens and be paid at least minimum wage / market value.

    Instead of illegals who typically do those jobs for under market value because the owners do not have to show any record of employment.
     
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    who is going to fight in this civil war? Could you deem it a civil war if one side is made up of illegals?
     
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    so the immigration system doesn't need to be reformed?

    I know a Chinese women who has a very high paying job, computer science major, bilingual, and she cannot even get a travel visa. The interview at the consulate basically was "why is a single female looking to visit america?"

    People like her that are clearly beneficial to america and should be welcomed with open arms. She was denied even a travel visa.

    I am a trump supporter, and as a man with hispanic family you would be surprised how many of them think trump is right.

    We should have a safe border. I had multiple friends in high school that were illegals. Do I hate immigrants? No, I don't even hate illegal immigrants. I hate that our immigration system is so broken that they have to come over illegally, and that they actually can get over the border.
     
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    Ive seen videos on youtube of Bernies saying exactly that. I was literally cheering. He also voted against increasing the number of work visas allowed because he thought there were too many Americans out of work already and they should have first choice for those jobs.

    And as far as illegals well we dont have to spend a dime rounding them up. Just eliminate sanctuary cities and deport them when they get pulled over, arrested or any other time they reveal themselves. Mostly though just crack down on people that hire them and start prosecuting. No jobs, self deportation.
     
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    Yes trump is anti LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration. Just look from where he took his cue from the most anti-immigration there is in the whole USA Mr. Jeff Sessions. He wants to end visa lottery, he wants to end green cards for family members of US citizens, wants to stop guess worker programs and he wants to basically shut the door on all non white immigrants. Trump looks like he will do exactly that that's why his lunatic base love him so much.
     
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    I was hesitant to use the term "civil war", but couldn't think of a better term att. Perhaps "widespread civil unrest" would be better. Point being, if you tried to forcefully deport millions, who's people make up ~15% of the country, race riots would occur, many law enforcement would die, local economies of places dependent on migrant labor would tank, nationwide protests would occur, etc. It would be like BLM on horsemeat.
     
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    You're too emotional on this issue and it's clouding your judgement. This is the problem with Liberals. I should know, I am one... It's important to look at the facts, Man. And the fact is, he's stated over and over what his intentions are and for the most part, they are reasonable. But somehow, when he says people are more than welcome to enter here legally and only legally, that somehow turns into "Trump hates Mexican People." Which is simply untrue.
     
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    While i do love a good mobocracy pandemonium; i cant see it going that far (just my opinion). Furthermore, i don't see illegals wanting to take it that far; as it would lead to all those gun loving; Red, White and Blue, gun lovers to form their own militias and go mexican hunting.

    Entertaining to watch, but i dont think Trump will follow through on mass deportation and i hope illegals do not think they would have a chance if they did a public display of civil defiance.
     
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    Too many of you are in denial. Those jobs would not be filled quickly as most Americans want nothing to do with those types of jobs and they wouldn't do them effectively. They also would demand more money and the prices would skyrocket. Add on top of that Republicans never wanting to increase wages and our economy starts to plummet.
     
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