If a fighter was only ever dominant using PED's..

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and everybody who watched knew it. Does that still make them a legend?
 
everyone just wants their guy to win.

Put a flag behind them and people will forgive any mishaps with taking something to help you along the way. Is normal.
 
Are you talking about a fighter using drugs legally or illegally TS?
 
In a case with someone like Belfort, it's gonna depend on how he looks now that if he's off the juice. If he keeps knocking people out, and wins the belt, you bet your ass he's a legend. If he starts looking flat and loses to guys he should've beat, I think it's safe to say his recent success was because of the trt.
 
Not that I'm interested in the thread, but you're being deliberately obtuse. You know he's talking about Steroids, HGH, Blood Doping etc.

Pretty much every fighter is on those.

Source, fighters accusing the majority of people in the fight game being on them.
 
Are you talking about a fighterusing drugs legally or illegally TS?
 
99% of fighters are on Performance enhancing drugs get over it.
 
Not that I'm interested in the thread, but you're being deliberately obtuse. You know he's talking about Steroids, HGH, Blood Doping etc.
There was literally no drug testing in every MMA organization pre-2002. If a fighter was high level during that era (and most legends were), chances are he was on something... They'd be stupid not to. There was no way anybody could find out.
 
Are you talking about Overeem? :D
 
If one displays a high enough level of badassery over a long enough time he will become a legend no matter how it happened. People will always remember him and speak of his badassery...boom, legend.
 
Are you talking about Overeem? :D

No one considers Overeem a legend, he's clearly insinuating Wand, ignoring the rules differences that helped Wand to thrive in Pride, and ignoring the damage he had taken (particularly right at the end in the OWGP) that has been part of his downfall since coming back to the UFC
 
No one considers Overeem a legend, he's clearly insinuating Wand, ignoring the rules differences that helped Wand to thrive in Pride, and ignoring the damage he had taken (particularly right at the end in the OWGP) that has been part of his downfall since coming back to the UFC

I disagree, Ubereem is most definitely a legend. Alistair not so much.
 
Are you talking about Hendo? His PED usage (when everybody was doing) lead him to need TRT later in his career, when he had his best streak by using something not everybody could.
 
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was he busted? if no then yes hes a legend, if yes then no ค้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้
 
I can't tell if youre serious or not.

Can't tell if you're serious. 99% of elite athletes are on drugs.

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Kinda like how Fedor only went 4-3 in regulated fights with drug testing.
 
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