Icarus: Netflix doc on Russia state-sponsored doping program. Must see.

[Kneepocalypse]

It starts with an amateur bike racer trying to see how feasible it is to dope and fool the testing system, then it becomes something far, far bigger.

If youve seen the Alex Gibney Snowden documentary, this is very similar. Gripping stuff.

It's true that everyone cheats, but no one cheats quite like Russia.

 

[Guestx]

Just finished this. It's very good. I agree it's a must-see.

Russia are the OGs of doping and it's obvious they've been doing it since the 60s.

Spoiler

It's such a shame the IOC didn't disqualify them for RIO.

And I hope Grigory is able to get his family stateside soon. It sucks that he had to just leave them behind when we got out.

 

[GSP4tw]

Watched it last night and it was very good.

 

[HelloJapan]

Just watched it, was very good. Russia doesn't fuck around lol.

 

[kenetics]

It starts with an amateur bike racer trying to see how feasible it is to dope and fool the testing system, then it becomes something far, far bigger.

If youve seen the Alex Gibney Snowden documentary, this is very similar. Gripping stuff.

It's true that everyone cheats, but no one cheats quite like Russia.

Americans cheat just as much, don't kid yourself.

 

[Kneepocalypse]

Americans cheat just as much, don't kid yourself.

Americans cheat a lot. This doc shows that Russians cheat more and better than everyone. There's levels to this.

 

[Darwinambrosius]

Added to my list for this weekend. Thanks m8

 

[Joe]

Americans cheat just as much, don't kid yourself.

You clearly haven't read up on it. Read the IOC report on Russian doping. This was government involved through the Russian sports federation, fsb and their anti doping agency. They should have been banned from the Olympics

 

[Kneepocalypse]

Just finished this. It's very good. I agree it's a must-see.

Russia are the OGs of doping and it's obvious they've been doing it since the 60s.

Spoiler

It's such a shame the IOC didn't disqualify them for RIO.

And I hope Grigory is able to get his family stateside soon. It sucks that he had to just leave them behind when we got out.

Gregory was so gregarious Hope things turn out for him

 

[Steve-French]

So does this mean that Fedor was on gear when he was part of the Russian Sambo and Judo teams?

 

[bandicoot]

So does this mean that Fedor was on gear when he was part of the Russian Sambo and Judo teams?

 

[kenetics]

You clearly haven't read up on it. Read the IOC report on Russian doping. This was government involved through the Russian sports federation, fsb and their anti doping agency. They should have been banned from the Olympics

Ya, the American scientist help their athletes dope as well during the olympics too.

 

[kenetics]

Americans cheat a lot. This doc shows that Russians cheat more and better than everyone. There's levels to this.

Ya, but wrong is wrong anyway you cut it.

 

[sverre054]

Great film. Just assume everyone in sports cheats. It's just Russians mandate its athletes and pay for it.

 

[Kneepocalypse]

Ya, but wrong is wrong anyway you cut it.

There are different levels and degrees of wrong. That's a basic human concept.

 

[neverwas]

i really want to see this,might give it a watch later today.

 

[kenetics]

There are different levels and degrees of wrong. That's a basic human concept.

Yup. But wrong is wrong at the end regardless of degree.

 

[INTERL0PER]

Interesting doco.

Spoiler

But I found it completely bizarre how Grigory was so ready and willing to help the filmmaker dope, right from the get go. Totally fine helping basically a random stranger to cheat and take PEDs, on camera. Just no worries about it at all.

Grigory also acted as if he was almost innocent. Just a pawn, when it seemed he was anything but.

It kind of reminded me of the film The Informant, with Matt Damon, where he played an informant who was just as dirty as the guys he was informing on.

 

[Guestx]

Yup. But wrong is wrong at the end regardless of degree.

There's still a difference between individual athletes/teams cheating, and cheating being a policy that is regulated by the sports commissions and government.

 

[Grrrr]

Been meaning to watch this. Hopefully will get a chance tomorrow