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IBJJF changing qualification for Mundials?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by J Sho, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. J Sho

    J Sho Green Belt

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    seen on a national IBJFF affiliate's website:

    The IBJJF is incorporating an International Ranking System which will see only qualified competitors enter the World Championships.

    doesn't clarify if this is for blkkc belt only or all belts.

    thoughts?
     
  2. Solidus Snake

    Solidus Snake Purple Belt

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    This would be a great sign of a growth in the sport, IMHO... I like the idea of rankings and qualifications.
     
  3. nakaiseye

    nakaiseye Yellow Belt

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    rankings would be awesome!
     
  4. Sloth

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    Interesting. I can see how this will raise the level of the tournament and bjj in general, but part of me is bummed if thus happens as I really enjoyed competing at the worlds and thought that it was pretty cool that anybody could potentially have a shot at competing against the big names of the sport.
     
  5. SuperSuperRambo

    SuperSuperRambo Senior Moderator Senior Moderator

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  6. bjjaz

    bjjaz Got the Rock...Time to Roll

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    There is so many people from so many countries, unless its only black belts, there is no way I think.
     
  7. davejitsu

    davejitsu Purple Belt

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    I heard about this a yr ago: Something to the effect one must win at least two provable events that year at a state level and place at a larger level, but that was just rumors
     
  8. RibCrusher**

    RibCrusher** Orange Belt

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    wouldn't they lose money on this?
     
  9. davejitsu

    davejitsu Purple Belt

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    I think it is aimed more at keeping the 100 plus man blue belt divisions down than it is towards the BB divs. If your a conspiracy believer maybe it is meant to keep the giants of the sport at the top.
     
  10. Chalito

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    I think it's good in the sense that there won't be an insane amount of people in one division. But kinda sad that if we don't qualify we won't be able to compete, worlds was such a cool experience to compete in.
     
  11. rampage22

    rampage22 Blue Belt

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    I understand this idea and where you are coming from, but the less you get away from the big grappling orgs (ibjjf, GQ, Naga) the less regulated it is. For instance I am from western PA and there really isn't a PA state championship. There was however a western pa bjj state championship. I wonder how they would determine the legitimacy of tourneys like that.

    Just an example: Between oct and the worlds of this year I won that west pa tourney and took first in the absolute at the Arnold classic this year. Theres two tournaments that I won but would I be allowed to compete at the worlds like I did this year with those two tournaments?

    It is a pretty good idea if they can actually do it. Its a bad idea if you only qualify for winning ibjjf tournaments.
     
  12. davejitsu

    davejitsu Purple Belt

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    Actually, there is: Pennsylvania State Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation
     
  13. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    Good. I'm kind of tired of my training partners saying "you should totally go compete at Mundials bro." I find it a little bit absurd when people say that I, a mediocre blue belt with 2.5 years of training and no significant competition wins, should go sign up to compete in the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.

    They really need to start having local/regional/national qualifying tournaments to ensure that the athletes fighting at Mundials have already proven that they deserve to be there.

    I also think they should get rid of belt divisions at Mundials (only black belts and colored belts who competed up in the black belt division and won at a qualifying tournament) and give cash prizes to the winners. Make it a professional competition.
     
  14. Solidus Snake

    Solidus Snake Purple Belt

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    For the first part of the post, maybe they think that you can grow a lot from the experience itself, whatever the outcome in results term is.

    Anyway I 100% agree with the second part you wrote, would love to see something like that. Mundials should be all about the best of the best!
     
  15. bjjaz

    bjjaz Got the Rock...Time to Roll

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    There is no way the same level of competition exists in different states, let alone countries. There are too many factors that would come into play other than just competition, injuries, money etc. Whoever wants to compete should be able to compete, thats how we learn.
     
  16. Doh!

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    Or they could do it like ADCC and have trials in different regions instead of every single state/country. They could have a bunch of trials - split Brazil and the US into multiple regions for example since we have so many more people training BJJ than some other regions. And hold 1 in Europe, 1 in Japan (and/or SE Asia), 1 in Australia, 1 in Canada, 1 in the Middle East etc, etc. It would make it easier for competitors to get sponsorship for the Mundial as well since you could say you "qualified" instead of simply paid $100 to register.

    They could turn the Miami, NYC, Vegas, Asian, European CBJJ tournaments into qualifiers easily. Then it's just a matter of creating the others. They would end up making more money at these qualifiers because everyone would go if they had to win (or place) to qualify for the Mundial. IMO having qualifying tournaments would raise the overall level of the sport in the long run. At no other sport can you make it to the World Championships just by signing up.
     
  17. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    good idea
     
  18. Oak

    Oak 栄誉

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    I think a qualifier, or a required top 3 in a state final, should be the way to make it to the Worlds. I don't think the idea of just winning 2 top comps is the right way to go about it.
     
  19. Oak

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    That is awesome. I know NY has one but do they communicate with other states? Would be cool if they could organize this for every state in the country.
     
  20. TacWar

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    I don't like this, I love the idea of open tournaments that everyone can enter, and think it would be a shame. I understand it may also be a way to try and get the top BBs to compete more than just 1 or 2 times though.
     

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