I think Tom and JJ are both in it together

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IMO, both Jon Jones and Tom Aspinall want the fight. If Jon really didn’t want it, he’d shut it down completely and say Stipe is his last. But the fact that he keeps things vague feels more like a calculated move. He probably noticed the Stipe fight was losing steam—not because Stipe isn’t elite (he absolutely is), but because Stipe doesn’t play the media game. He leans into the “I’m an old man” persona in big interviews, even though in smaller podcasts he admitted he was in great shape, confident, and ready with a heavier frame (247 lbs) specifically to outlast someone like Ngannou. He even mentioned how the octagon size affected his game plan in that loss and that he felt disappointed when Ngannou left as he was totally confident he'd get the 2-1 but that fighting JJ meant even more for him. He said though that he wants people to think he was old and weakened so his win would have a bigger impact (Jackson's podcast).

But the public perception is tricky, especially with Jon. Every little thing gets twisted to make it seem like he’s avoiding real competition. And since Stipe doesn’t hype himself, fans start doubting him. On the other hand, Tom does hype things up. He’s also elite, and the first signs of hesitance from Jones created this narrative shift—suddenly, people are convinced Tom’s the guy. And honestly, even if Tom ends up fighting Gane before Jones, it won’t hurt him. Whether he’s defending an interim or undisputed belt doesn’t change much in the fans’ eyes—most already see him as the real champ. In fact, if Jon retires, that may hurt Tom’s drawing power. Fighting Gane for a vacant undisputed title without Jon in the picture feels less meaningful.

Add to that the UFC’s current business uncertainty with ESPN, and it’s pretty likely IMO that both Tom and Jon are probably waiting for a better deal to maximize the payday. They’re both smart. Tom doesn’t just want the belt—he wants the moment. If he loses to Jon, it better be with the biggest bag possible. And if he wins, it needs to be at a time when the fight is at its peak value. I wouldn’t even be surprised if they’re coordinating a little behind the scenes, keeping up the "rivalry" as a way to build the fight WWE-style while the UFC negotiates its next big media deal.

At the end of the day, the actual belt matters less than the narrative. Tom defending the interim belt while Jon still holds the official one gives fans something to argue about, which ironically drives more hype than if the titles were unified and the drama ended. Tom knows this, Jon knows this, and they’re both playing the game. They know the current social media trend is also full of frustrated ppl that must hop on to things that are inconsequential to the online ppl's lives, but that get overblown as it's the new age and way of channeling their own frustrations with their in real life stuff.
 
The UFC HW title will be defended once this year. And there is no good goddamn reason for it, when both guys are healthy and ready to go.

Jon only wants to fight once a year, in his own backyard late in the year. This version of Dana is too much of a bitch to slap Jon into place. Frank and Lorenzo would NEVER have let Jon do this song and dance or let a fighter dictate the terms.

Jon is either retired, or has one fight left. Conor's as useless as tits on a bull. There's no other major marketable stars right now, so if there was ever a time for the UFC brass to regain control over all these cherry-picking princesses, it's right now.

2 divisional title defenses a year, mandatory. No fucking excuses or squatting.

I don't think Tom only wants to fight once this year, but he is laser focused on the Undisputed title so this is where we are. If Jon is holding it, or holding it up, that's Tom's next and only fight. If Jon gets stripped, Tom will take the very first opponent offered for that Undisputed title.

Fuck, all Dana has to do is publicly announce Jon is scared so they're going to strip him and move one. It will fuck with Jon's ego and his head indefinitely.
 
The UFC HW title will be defended once this year. And there is no good goddamn reason for it, when both guys are healthy and ready to go.

Jon only wants to fight once a year, in his own backyard late in the year. This version of Dana is too much of a bitch to slap Jon into place. Frank and Lorenzo would NEVER have let Jon do this song and dance or let a fighter dictate the terms.

Jon is either retired, or has one fight left. Conor's as useless as tits on a bull. There's no other major marketable stars right now, so if there was ever a time for the UFC brass to regain control over all these cherry-picking princesses, it's right now.

2 divisional title defenses a year, mandatory. No fucking excuses or squatting.

I don't think Tom only wants to fight once this year, but he is laser focused on the Undisputed title so this is where we are. If Jon is holding it, or holding it up, that's Tom's next and only fight. If Jon gets stripped, Tom will take the very first opponent offered for that Undisputed title.

Fuck, all Dana has to do is publicly announce Jon is scared so they're going to strip him and move one. It will fuck with Jon's ego and his head indefinitely.
I thought Jon signed a new multi-fight deal.
 
I'm assuming you also think Jones wanted the Francis fight. And the Cain fight. And the DC fight at HW. And the Chael fight at UFC 151.

Jones is risk-averse, which is why he wants conditions to be perfect before accepting a challenge. And conditions will never be perfect to fight Aspinall...ergo it likely won't happen.
 
Jon Jones being not retired whether he fights pr not brings the UFC FAR more attention. Sherdog has devalued the man so much this seems trigonometry too most here
 
he could retire a long time ago if he wanted to
jon jones scamming all of his haters
its pretty obvious even all his post
hes gonna make his haters cry again
and gonna get that big payday

imagine your a full grown man getting deceived and scammed all over again
for more than a decade jon jones proved his haters wrong
and their gonna cry again
and claim aspinals a nobody biggest win is 42 year old andrei arlovski after jones strangles him 🤣
 
He probably noticed the Stipe fight was losing steam—not because Stipe isn’t elite (he absolutely is), but because Stipe doesn’t play the media game. He leans into the “I’m an old man” persona in big interviews
Stipe was so dedicated to the old man bit he fought with the speed of one on purpose
 
Of course, that’s how it works…

I remember the first time the business was exposed for me; Razor Ramon, Diesel, Shawn Michaels, and the 1-2-3 Kid all had a group hug. It was like finding out Santa wasn’t real all over again…

The UFC doesn’t even try to hide it. Their Heels and Babyfaces are always posting pictures with each other and training together…

It’s only a matter of time before two fighters blow the finish to a match, and Dana White has to step into the octagon to restart the fight, but ends up blowing both his quads on the way in…
 
I'm assuming you also think Jones wanted the Francis fight. And the Cain fight. And the DC fight at HW. And the Chael fight at UFC 151.

Jones is risk-averse, which is why he wants conditions to be perfect before accepting a challenge. And conditions will never be perfect to fight Aspinall...ergo it likely won't happen.
Chael was a late-notice fight. Jones had prepped for someone else, so he played it safe, stuck to a game plan, and treated MMA like a business—not a gladiator show. Since 2011 every opponent has come at him as with he being the one with the belt on the line, so he’s always been the puzzle. By the time he broke Chuck’ Ldell's record (six LHW defenses after Gus... And brought that to a surreal 15 defenses across divisions) he’d earned the right to set terms. If the UFC and Aspinall are negotiating, it’s because a HW division without Jones is worth less than one big Jones fight. Strip him and interest tanks; keep him and PPV money stays huge.

Jones didn’t “strong-arm” anyone. Conor got stripped for inactivity in lightweight, and the UFC would do the same to Jones if they thought he was stalling. Post-Stipe he literally said, “If the UFC wants, I’ll vacate.” No pride games—just “I’ll fight again when I’m 100 %, on my terms, for real money. If not, I retire and Tom can have the belt.” The brass crunched the numbers and saw more profit in waiting for Jones-Tom than in rushing Tom-Gane for a vacant strap. Whether it’s “interim” or “undisputed,” the belt matters less than the storyline: haters want to see Jones lose, fans want him to win—either way they buy.

I’m pretty sure Jones hopes Tom wins. As Tom Aspinall said in the Ariel show, "JJ is a ruthless competitor who feeds on pressure", and a second Gane fight has zero buzz. Tom is the fresh name, like Ngannou was. Remember, Jones signed to fight Francis; Ngannou walked. In comparison from when Jones first said “show me the money" (he wasn't even a HW, so he didn't stall things either) to when he accepted the contract and signed it to fight Nagnnou, the UFC had by then tripled the purse for both guys, JJ accepted and Ngannou chose free agency; Jones stayed and cashed in. After beating Gane, Jones was disappointed the Ngannou fight was gone, as he wanted that one for the money and legacy name... but in a podcast made 2 months after JJ beat Gane, Jones was already thinking ahead on a "new Ngannou" and had his eye on the next big threat. He noticed how people were already saying Gane sucks and even taking credit from the upcoming Stipe fight, so he noticed Tom interested him, as he said from the fights he has seen, Tom has the potential to beat every other HW there except him, complementing basically with a “He’s dangerous, but beating him now would feel like beating a ‘nobody’ to casuals. Let him build, then we make it huge—for legacy and for the check. If there is not a very strong narrative and his name doesn't become mainstream, Stipe is the last 100% and then maybe a cross promotion fight vs Ngannou, but he has the potential to be a Ngannou level threat, so if he can make his name big, I would love to stick around and get one more. But for me, I need to approach it with a business mindset at this stage.” — I've literally posted this podcast here in the timing JJ mentioned it. It has very low views which is on purpose as the algorithm will make the best possible to hide the narrative they want to pass in for the fight to be big — they don't want to have JJ approaching that as a build up thing that he thinks he can definitely win — nor does JJ... They want JJ to be seen as the one to be hunted on this one.

That’s the play: wait until Aspinall is undeniable, then cash one last monster payday and close the book with a win that may possibly be even bigger than defeating Ngannou... And with the current instability with ESPN and the hopes to solidify a bigger deal sign deal with other platforms, both Tom and Jon know that would be the timing for them to get the most $ they can off it.
 
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