I think primetime network television just turned me into a right winger

[Deleted member 429137]

I haven't watched network television in almost ten years, but tonight I caught part of How to Get Away With Murder.

The episode starts with the professor saying profiling the villain, saying, "How do I know it's an old white man? It's always an old white man."

The plot has an abused woman describing getting raped by a hose and a mop handle in the hands of her husband.

Then there's a sub-plot in which a white guy begs his (secret) black girlfriend to stop hiding him because he's learning how to be cool and she explains that she's not his teacher and doesn't have time to strip away all his white person faults.

The rape thing is something I don't want tossed into any random show on television because it's a serious thing and I don't want it trivialized.

(There's also a simulated oral sex scene that genuinely shocked me. And a few nights ago there was a show -- Bosch? -- that had the characters saying the word "fuck", uncensored, on broadcast television at ten o'clock at night.)

But the race preaching, especially the last one, was jarring. This is the first time I felt so out of touch with what's going on in the world and what is being portrayed positively, in a hero's actions, in mainstream entertainment.

This is probably how insane-ass rightwingers who have gone down this path long ago got started.

 

[Blackened]

I used to lean left. Welcome to the club. It's always had a liberal bias, you don't really notice until you step out of culture for a prolonged periods of time and things have drastically changed when you return.

 

[in the]

I'm still very left on some issues, but this modern version of the left is a bunch of critical race theory horseshit that I want NOTHING to do with.

Instead of fighting government, corporate, and big bank corruption (all of which eventually go hand in hand), the modern left is determined to segregate people according to certain identities and assign "privilege" or "oppression" based on their progressive stack. Yeah, to hell with that.

The left has lost its soul.

 

[Space]

Welcome to the club, Dredd. I was a leftist in college, voted for Kerry and Obama.

But seeing what the left was becoming made me run the other way. And it's always been like this, but we were the frogs boiling in the pot of hot water.

Thank god frogs can jump well; we're out of the boiling water now.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Hollywood has always been left leaning -- but they produce violence and nudity -- which I'm a fan of.

So, I don't care.

Hell, I loved The West Wing and it was the most smug and condenseding leftiest show, ever.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I used to lean left. Welcome to the club. It's always had a liberal bias, you don't really notice until you step out of culture for a prolonged periods of time and things have drastically changed when you return.

It is quite shocking to learn that the shadows on the cave wall being projected by Leftists are not real.

 

[bmasters1993]

Welcome to the club, Dredd. I was a leftist in college, voted for Kerry and Obama.

But seeing what the left was becoming made me run the other way. And it's always been like this, but we were the frogs boiling in the pot of hot water.

Thank god frogs can jump well; we're out of the boiling water now.

Theory: the alt-right is pre '08 lefties who wanted to get away from what the left was becoming but didn't want to associate with the Ted Cruz types

 

[funcrusher2007]

I am a center lefty...but I can't stand the type of media you are describing..I've come across quite a few like that in last five years or so(apparently when the powers that be started there uber progressive agenda).. That being said, I think you should differentiate being a leftist and being a uber progressive...what is being pushed now isn't leftist...it's crazy crazy agenda...I don't even know what it is truthfully..most reg liberals don't even subscribe to this shit...I could see the wacko college sjw peeps or maybe like the Berkley types but there's definitely a wierd agenda being forced down our throats(no pun intended lol)

 

[Space]

Theory: the alt-right is pre '08 lefties who wanted to get away from what the left was becoming but didn't want to associate with the Ted Cruz types

I think so. The Far Left has hijacked the Dem party and they're absolutely Fruit Loops.

The alt-right are the disgruntled remains of former center-leftists who had common sense.

 

[ripskater]

I haven't watched network television in almost ten years, but tonight I caught part of How to Get Away With Murder.

The episode starts with the professor saying profiling the villain, saying, "How do I know it's an old white man? It's always an old white man."

The plot has an abused woman describing getting raped by a hose and a mop handle in the hands of her husband.

Then there's a sub-plot in which a white guy begs his (secret) black girlfriend to stop hiding him because he's learning how to be cool and she explains that she's not his teacher and doesn't have time to strip away all his white person faults.

The rape thing is something I don't want tossed into any random show on television because it's a serious thing and I don't want it trivialized.

(There's also a simulated oral sex scene that genuinely shocked me. And a few nights ago there was a show -- Bosch? -- that had the characters saying the word "fuck", uncensored, on broadcast television at ten o'clock at night.)

But the race preaching, especially the last one, was jarring. This is the first time I felt so out of touch with what's going on in the world and what is being portrayed positively, in a hero's actions, in mainstream entertainment.

This is probably how insane-ass rightwingers who have gone down this path long ago got started.

Now you're on my side, how scary is that?

 

[Blackened]

I am a center lefty...but I can't stand the type of media you are describing..I've come across quite a few like that in last five years or so(apparently when the powers that be started there uber progressive agenda).. That being said, I think you should differentiate being a leftist and being a uber progressive...what is being pushed now isn't leftist...it's crazy crazy agenda...I don't even know what it is truthfully..most reg liberals don't even subscribe to this shit...I could see the wacko college sjw peeps or maybe like the Berkley types but there's definitely a wierd agenda being forced down our throats(no pun intended lol)

Man, this new agenda would have Tim Leary shaking his head.

 

[Blackened]

Theory: the alt-right is pre '08 lefties who wanted to get away from what the left was becoming but didn't want to associate with the Ted Cruz types

Pretty much this, though the media tries to paint them as Adolf Hitler incarnate. "You don't think white people are responsible for all the worlds problems? RACIST!!! Look, we have a RACIST over here!!!"

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Yeah this is how conservatives are made. It's usually a reaction to something traumatic they saw on TV.

 

[TheFirstEMP]

I used to lean left. Welcome to the club. It's always had a liberal bias, you don't really notice until you step out of culture for a prolonged periods of time and things have drastically changed when you return.

Same. Leaned left, listened to my mom. Stepped away and really started to notice how they treat their viewers, as if they are all stupid and cannot think for themselves. Like they need to be told what to think.

 

[Letssnuggle]

This typically happens when a person receives their first paycheck and pays taxes.

But the media has definitely stepped up the insanity over the last few years so I can see how this occurred.

 

[dontsnitch]

I'm interested in seeing the number of conservatives that convert versus the number of liberals. Seems like an interesting discussion.

 

[Yunes]

I haven't watched network television in almost ten years, but tonight I caught part of How to Get Away With Murder.

The episode starts with the professor saying profiling the villain, saying, "How do I know it's an old white man? It's always an old white man."

The plot has an abused woman describing getting raped by a hose and a mop handle in the hands of her husband.

Then there's a sub-plot in which a white guy begs his (secret) black girlfriend to stop hiding him because he's learning how to be cool and she explains that she's not his teacher and doesn't have time to strip away all his white person faults.

The rape thing is something I don't want tossed into any random show on television because it's a serious thing and I don't want it trivialized.

(There's also a simulated oral sex scene that genuinely shocked me. And a few nights ago there was a show -- Bosch? -- that had the characters saying the word "fuck", uncensored, on broadcast television at ten o'clock at night.)

But the race preaching, especially the last one, was jarring. This is the first time I felt so out of touch with what's going on in the world and what is being portrayed positively, in a hero's actions, in mainstream entertainment.

This is probably how insane-ass rightwingers who have gone down this path long ago got started.

For some, probably. For others there are moral objections to some of the lefts fundamental values.

 

[Metusalemi]

Why would anyone watch TV anymore. The commercials alone are annoying enough to deter me from that shit.

 

[ripskater]

I'm interested in seeing the number of conservatives that convert versus the number of liberals. Seems like an interesting discussion.

There are way more liberals out there. But with how the left has gone insane the last 8 years, there's gotta be people defecting.

But here's the other thing, the republican party and today's conservatives really aren't near as conservative as they were.

 

[IDL]

Entertainment television is one of the most effective conduits of propaganda there is, because peoples guards are down and ideas can slip in.

Once you start to see this sort of thing in TV shows and in movies, it becomes more and more obvious.