Opinion I stand with Hong kong

American service firms (investment banking, management consulting, accounting etc) triple their revenue in China in the past 10 years. The market in North America and Europe are saturated, and China is the new gold rush since they are just expanding from manufacturing to services. This may be news to you, but companies go where the money is, not where your nationalist sentiment want them to be. Walk into any Ivy League schools, and at least half the students in IT/Engineering/STEM are Chinese. They provide the talents to US firms to continue innovating. US leads the pack not because of xenophobic fear of spies. It does so by attracting the best talents from around the world. You are treating hundreds of thousands of professional talents as potential spies and pushing them back into the hands of Communist China. The fewer brains they have, the worse their future looks.

No, it won't hurt the "far left" university because Chinese students rarely study social sciences and liberal arts.

If these company's don't want to move out of China on their own they can be forced out. We don't need Chinese nationals in the US getting degrees in fields that are actually needed, while Americans students earn worthless degrees, and come away indoctrinated and in debt. Our decline is from bad policy. It can be stopped, and reversed, by changing that policy. The Chinese economy isn't as strong as some think, and they will have a hard time controlling their huge population when things go south.
 
So you don't simply support self-governance, you pick and choose based on whatever offends your personal sensibilities?

Said no one ever. But your post is comedic. Offend personal sensibilities? They are literally enslaving their population. Go ahead... support that shit. I stand with Hong Kong, because they are standing for Freedom. The NBA does not, because they stand by shoes and the $ generated by them.
 
well if we weren't sure before, we now know that CPP propaganda agents are on Sherdog.
Don’t be such a donkey. Supporting democracy and what these rioters are doing is not the same. I also support a democratic system but this is not the way to go about it.
 
The Hong Kong protests are just a larger scale version of Occupy Wall Street. Wealthy millennials be paid to protest by all the wealthy money laundering criminals that want keep Hong Kong immune from mainland scrutiny and taxes.

Nope, the occupy Wall Street thing was the first wave of participation trophy kids. Realizing they couldn’t get a free hand out when their worthless college degree wouldn’t land them the job of their dreams.
 
The Hong Kong protests are just a larger scale version of Occupy Wall Street. Wealthy millennials be paid to protest by all the wealthy money laundering criminals that want keep Hong Kong immune from mainland scrutiny and taxes.

They don't want to be extradited to Mainland China and disappeared. The change means that can happen to them. They are fighting changes in Chinese extradition laws.
 
Last edited:
Said no one ever. But your post is comedic. Offend personal sensibilities? They are literally enslaving their population. Go ahead... support that shit. I stand with Hong Kong, because they are standing for Freedom. The NBA does not, because they stand by shoes and the $ generated by them.

So if they weren't literally enslaving their population, you'd say China has a right to keep Hong Kong under its governance? Like the US does with its states?
 
nothing more embarrassing than watching everyone fall all over themselves the bow down the fucking China.

It's a fucking disgrace. As soon as Trump is out we are going to work double-time to get that Chinese cock back in our mouth.

Just checking how many Trump-family businesses are over in China. Is it more than 0? k.
 
I hope China Gets control of these spoiled Hong kongers before things really get violent. China is going to get it back mom matter what so it would be nice if they gave up before more people get injured or worse.
 
So if they weren't literally enslaving their population, you'd say China has a right to keep Hong Kong under its governance? Like the US does with its states?

If it were the United States of Asia with the same Constitution, then there would be no need for the world to offer Hong Kong support. They would have guns. They would have speech. They would have assembly. These people have Authoritarian thugs beating them, shooting them, and disappearing them. You do see the difference?
 
They don't want to be extradited to Mainland China and disappeared. The change means that can happen to them. They are fighting changes in Chinese extradition laws.

That bill was withdrawn a month ago. Have they introduced a new one?
 
If these company's don't want to move out of China on their own they can be forced out. We don't need Chinese nationals in the US getting degrees in fields that are actually needed, while Americans students earn worthless degrees, and come away indoctrinated and in debt. Our decline is from bad policy. It can be stopped, and reversed, by changing that policy. The Chinese economy isn't as strong as some think, and they will have a hard time controlling their huge population when things go south.
That kind of market interference would harm American corporations and their shareholders, and majority of US saving funds have stakes in them. That is not to mention it would undermine faith in US government's commitment to free market since it is forcing its corporations to comply like a command economy. American colleges aren't importing Chinese students to fill their STEM, IT and engineering degrees. They just can't get enough local students interested enough. China is suffering badly from brain drain to US because these bright students want to study and work abroad, and you want to push them right back to China by denying all of their visa?

Are you a Chinese agent? Because everything you suggested does more harm than good for US.
 
If it were the United States of Asia with the same Constitution, then there would be no need for the world to offer Hong Kong support. They would have guns. They would have speech. They would have assembly. These people have Authoritarian thugs beating them, shooting them, and disappearing them. You do see the difference?

You mean like those Central American countries the US helped or the Middle-Eastern ones we liberated?
 
Or disappeared.


Do you see it, Jimmy? Let's take a close look.

Sometimes, when cognitive bias, propaganda, and the the subconscious, merge with trolling, you get complete self delusion. In this example, notice the proposed thought experiment is a precise mirror image of reality, with liberal instead of conservative; the mistaken belief modern neoliberalism has anything to do with being liberal while it has been the religion of American conservatives for coming on 5 decades; the realization that that the regime is already neoliberal given the foregoing, disenfranchising people en masse for partisan gain; calling the press the enemy of the people; the media outlets with the firmest control on their viewers; the POTUS saying publicly he is in favor of side-stepping due process; opposition to the Voting Rights act; the War on Drugs; permanent tax cuts for the rich while the ones for the middle class expire; abuse of the office of attorney general; abuse of process in supreme court nomination, and so on and so on; all are right-wing actions that together fulfill in fact, what supposedly a thought experiment. It's a sad commentary on people in the 21st century, but it is what it is.

But take heart. The next time you see "leftists don't care about rights" or "they constantly cry racist when it's not" and so on, just take the exact opposite to heart. Not only will it be true, it will be what the person really believes deep inside and you should try to have some empathy for their cognitive issues and leave them be. It will take away from them whatever power they think they're trying to hold onto.

@Jack V Savage Anything to add, perchance?

Liberal is not a description of a left-wing ideology; we can bicker about the semantics of what is left and right wing (Jack once clearly defined it as opponents of equality vs proponents of equality, which is good enough IMO), but its clear that whatever you want to describe the governing system as, its clearly terrified of hard-edged left wing ideas as it is of religious fundamentalism and ethnic chauvinism.
 
Liberal is not a description of a left-wing ideology; we can bicker about the semantics of what is left and right wing (Jack once clearly defined it as opponents of equality vs proponents of equality, which is good enough IMO), but its clear that whatever you want to describe the governing system as, its clearly terrified of hard-edged left wing ideas as it is of religious fundamentalism and ethnic chauvinism.
Is this supposed to be a rebuttal?
 


hello PolishHeadlock2,

that's a dangerous statement (from a business perspective) for Mr. Silver to make.

it might have been smarter for him to adopt Coach Kerr's approach. when asked about the unrest in Hong Kong, Mr. Kerr said, “It’s a really bizarre international story, and a lot of us really don’t know what to make of it.”.

Kerr will probably avoid any repercussions via China's government.

the China has laid down its marker;
“The N.B.A. has been in cooperation with China for many years,” Geng Shuang, a spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said at a briefing on Tuesday. “It knows clearly in its heart what to say and what to do.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/sports/adam-silver-nba-china-hong-kong.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Xi Jinping has dictated what President Trump is permitted to say about Hong Kong (if US soybean farmers want access to China's market), and he has obeyed.
i don't think its unreasonable for the Chinese government to expect some general manager (whom they probably haven't even heard of...a nobody, from China's perspective) of a sports team to do the same, if that sports team is a part of an organization that seeks greater penetration into China's market.

that's business.

- IGIT
 
Back
Top