I just realized something about Stone Cold

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  1. SSgt Dickweed

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    That he didn't have a wide array of moves. How come Cena got criticized for not having a diverse skillset but he didn't?

    He had more moves when he was younger (like Cena). It's kind of funny how he was a jobber early on. He sells bumps in a funny way.
     
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    He became very limited due to injuries, especially after Owen broke his neck. So his matches ended up consisting mostly of brawling and a few moves. He was so over and had such charisma that it didn't really matter did it? Austin got - and probably still gets - a bigger reaction for flipping the bird and opening a beer than most guys would get for doing some crazy backflip off of a cage through a table.
     
  3. Pliny Pete

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    Because he was around before the internet became so powerful and important
    None of this bullshit about move sets and work rates and star ratings and all that other nerd garbage ever existed before the internet
    We watched wrestling to get lost in the story and watch good guys beat up bad guys, not to sit around criticizing and being judgemental of every little thing
     
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    He was a pretty great worker as Stunning Steve Austin back in WCW. He had some great tag matches alongside Brian Pillman and his singles matches against Ricky Steamboat and Dustin Rhodes were exceptional.
     
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  5. Thrawn33

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    Charisma

    If you can make people feel you, then you're over. Most of his fans wished they were like him: tell the world to fuck off and do your own thing, beat up your boss and anyone else in your way, cuss and drink beers.

    He was first truly great anti-hero as well, no more Train/Prayers/Vitamins it was Kick Ass/Fuck you/Get Drunk.
     
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  7. SSgt Dickweed

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    Yeah. That's what comes to mind as well. Although some guys resented him for it. I can recall D.Lo sandbagging against him during RR99.

    Bullshit. Bret Hart's "Excellence of Execution" was based on his complete-ish (didn't have the high flying stunts) skillset back then.

    I'll try to check this out. Thanks.
     
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    I was just gonna reference this. The hair flick was a Nash original lol
     
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    Are you talking about the guy that failed as world champion and helped send the company into a tailspin that they didn't pull out of until Stone Cold came around?
    Yea, that's not helping your cause, bud
     
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  10. SSgt Dickweed

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    More like the guy who ensured an entire country is Rasslin' crazy and to this day is still emulated by top talents. And who was the first guy who helped SC get exposure in the first place?

    Besides there are many others examples. Most top stars from the Attitude era had a more diverse skillset than SC. You just like having a selective memory I guess.
     
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    You're helping me prove my point
    Bret is emulated now because people care about that shit a lot more now days
    A lotta people were better wrestlers than Stone Cold but he was able to rise above them all, why, because that shit wasn't so important back then

    The numbers don't lie, bud, the the business went down, down, down when they put the title on Bret
    He isn't the only reason but he wasn't a strong enough champ to bring them out of it either
    Why?
    Because dazzling move sets didn't put butts in seats
     
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    The internet fans in the 90s hated Stone Cold and Rocky for not having a ring skills lol. And heres another news, HHH was the internet darling back then too.
     
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    It's been said before but it bears repeating...charisma matters. Hulk Hogan is the greatest American pro rassler of all time and couldn't do dick in the ring compared to even Cena...and none of that matters because he made 93,000 people shit their pants with excitement over a fucking bodyslam. You have to make people care...Stone Cold made people care...Hogan made people care. Now Cena had the charisma to go down that route...lest we forget Rapper Cena was beloved by all ages at one point...but he wanted to sell t-shirts to kids more than he wanted to be remembered in the same positive light as Stone Cold. He lives in giant mansion now so I can't exactly fault him for his choice.
     
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    Like Nash once said, "people didn't get to see Austin at his best in the ring; they got Austin with 150,000 miles on him".
     
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    Stone Cold got big in an era when wrestling was awesome and casuals could enjoy it. As the time went on, pro wrestling scene got more and more infected by the smark dorks who don't give a fuck about stories, psychology, charisma, characters and instead jerk off to high work rate vanilla midget matches that never end - which coincided with Cena's push to fame by WWE. So, even besides the fact that he's just not as likable and charismatic as Steve Austin, Cena had to endure the criticisms from ass pukes who's standards are ruining the industry. Shit that Stone Cold didn't have to deal with.
     
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    Sometimes things just work out if I were Steve or any other major star I’d think to myself



    talent goes so far, it pays to be in the right place at the right time. Steve was in the business a long time before he hit.
     
  17. RandyCouture>U

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    Stunning Steve was phenomenal in the ring. Damn near flawless.

    Stone cold was over because of charisma and timing. But hot damn we're his matches predicable after that neck surgery. Especially pay per view matches. Start off throwing fists,spill to the outside,fight up the ramp,. Use set as battleground. Some crowd brawling and then go back to the ring and do a gazillion run ins before finish.
    Entertaining as hell but just like the Hogan era, matches we're formulatic.
     
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    RollSonnenRoll On the square. On the level.

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    Also gotta remember, in the grand scheme of things, we really barley saw that side of him. He broke his neck in August of 97 which limited his move set. He became “the guy” 6 months later then by March of 2003 he was done. That’s 5 years as the face of the company. He was out with injuries plus his walkout well over a year cumulatively during those 5 years. So we really only saw him for about 4 years, that’s nothing in wrestling time. So it’s fair to say we didn’t even have time to realize how limited he was, even if we did care, which we didn’t because he’s motherucking Stone Cold Steve Austin.
     
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    He was never the most technical worker, but his style really became limited after the piledriver.
     

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