I hope (fear) Rose/Carla didn't start a new trend

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That the judges turned in a coin flip win for Rose, a coin flip win for Carla and an almost clean sweep for Carla (49-46) is a problem in of itself.

But now the real danger is anyone who knows they're up on the score cards can reliably expect that if they just circle for 4:30 and flurry/attempt a takedown without establishing control or advancing position, can still win rounds is a nightmare for fans.

DC said it perfectly, the difference in win bonus and championship PPV points is all that matters to fighters.

If MMA doesn't correct it's refusal to use 10-10 scoring for rounds in which there is no logical choice for a winner, this garbage could get out of hand

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So 10-10 rounds would've done what for this fight make it a draw? 50-49 Carla?

Warnings or even point deduction (for both) for timidity by the ref would've done more that 10-10s for this "fight".
 
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milliniar said:
So 10-10 rounds would've done what for this fight make it a draw? 50-49 Carla?

Warnings or even point deduction (for both) for timidity by the ref would've done more that 10-10s for this "fight".
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This. The referee is equal to blame in this one. The "fighters" didn't even get a verbal warning at the start of one of the rounds? This used to happen frequently back in the day.

I do not think this will be an ongoing trend as Rose is legitimately mentally ill and I wouldn't expect others to follow suit with her but yeah awful officiating this weekend. The lack of stand ups/separations in the Bader fight was also baffling
 
If both fighters agree to let the coinflip happen and want to punch air instead of fight, so be it. Eventually a contender will come and not agree to that. I hope most people don't consider that a legitimate fight, not that Rose should have the title either.
 
10-10 rounds would have made this a draw, which a great verdict for this horrible fight. Then Carla wouldn't win via doing nothing and moves back down the ladder and Rose can open up her strikes with Weli/Joanna.
 
That tactic been around since the dawn of combat sports. It's called stealing a round.
 
Round 1: 10-10
Round 2: 10-10 or 10-9 Carla
Round 3: 10-10 or 10-9 Rose
Round 4: 10-9 Carla
Round 5: 10-9 Rose

Final Score: Who gives a shit?
 
milliniar said:
Warnings or even point deduction (for both) for timidity by the ref would've done more that 10-10s for this "fight".
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FreddieRoachsVoice said:
This. The referee is equal to blame in this one. The "fighters" didn't even get a verbal warning at the start of one of the rounds? This used to happen frequently back in the day
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Blaming lack of engagement on the referee? Retarded.
The ref is there to stop the action in the case of fouls and stop the fight when it's over.
The level of engagement is entirely up to the fighters.
Have you ever watched a basketball game and the ref called Foul on LeBron because he wouldn't shoot? How about a football game when the score is 0-0 at the half? How about baseball game? How about a surf contest? How about a hockey game? How about snowboarding? How about Sumo?

The athletes know exactly what they're supposed to do. They don't need the ref to tell them to do that. That's their coaches' job, you dimwits.
 
Who cares? When no damage is done whatsoever, it’s going to be a coin flip. One judge may think a takedown is enough to win the round, someone else may look at who spent most time in the centre of the octagon. The scoring last night wasn’t bad, it was expected since it wasn’t a fight. It’s extremely rare that “fights” result in no damage/dominance which is generally how you score the winner.
 
M.U.S.C.L.E. said:
Blaming lack of engagement on the referee? Retarded.
The ref is there to stop the action in the case of fouls and stop the fight when it's over.
The level of engagement is entirely up to the fighters.
Have you ever watched a basketball game and the ref called Foul on LeBron because he wouldn't shoot? How about a football game when the score is 0-0 at the half? How about baseball game? How about a surf contest? How about a hockey game? How about snowboarding? How about Sumo?

The athletes know exactly what they're supposed to do. They don't need the ref to tell them to do that. That's their coaches' job, you dimwits.
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Timidity is a foul in MMA...it could be argued there was just enough to not mention it during the round but could do it before a round or at end of a round to let them know he needed more action.
 
Tweak896 said:
If both fighters agree to let the coinflip happen and want to punch air instead of fight, so be it. Eventually a contender will come and not agree to that. I hope most people don't consider that a legitimate fight, not that Rose should have the title either.
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Very grateful she lost the belt. Imagine turning in a title fight like that as a beloved champion and retaining.

Krimzon said:
10-10 rounds would have made this a draw, which a great verdict for this horrible fight. Then Carla wouldn't win via doing nothing and moves back down the ladder and Rose can open up her strikes with Weli/Joanna.
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delusional, if a title fight ends in a draw there is always a subsequent rematch. always.
 
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I think if it happens more often than once every year, Dana will start sending their family members to Kadyrov
 
If Rose just threw something out there in every round it would've been enough to secure her title. She literally did nothing. Carla did close to nothing.
 
milliniar said:
Timidity is a foul in MMA...it could be argued there was just enough to not mention it during the round but could do it before a round or at end of a round to let them know he needed more action.
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Timidity is completely subjective. It's not like an eye poke or groin shot. You've been watching MMA for a while. I'm sure you've seen many a fight where the fighters appear to be dancing around, not really doing anything, then BAM! Fight's over.

To blame the ref is absurd. Talk about looking for a scapegoat. How about hold the actual people responsible accountable?

I would say I'm sure that Rose regrets losing her belt and will never let this happen again, but that Pat Barry weirdo seems to have seriously brainwashed her into believing it was a great strategy and she really won.
 
RockyLockridge said:
LOL the judges weren't the problem rose not engaging was the problem they scored it properly.
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this

it'd be a worse precident to give the win to the fighter who doesn't engage and runs away all the time. Imagine if you could defend your belt every time by just running away from your opponent for 5 rounds because the judges will automatically give such 'close' rounds to the champ.
 
Cleveland said:
That the judges turned in a coin flip win for Rose, a coin flip win for Carla and an almost clean sweep for Carla (49-46) is a problem in of itself.

But now the real danger is anyone who knows they're up on the score cards can reliably expect that if they just circle for 4:30 and flurry/attempt a takedown without establishing control or advancing position, can still win rounds is a nightmare for fans.

DC said it perfectly, the difference in win bonus and championship PPV points is all that matters to fighters.

If MMA doesn't correct it's refusal to use 10-10 scoring for rounds in which there is no logical choice for a winner, this garbage could get out of hand

FSNZsPKVUAA4w-L
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The fight gets scored a draw and we have to have a rematch of this abomination. You didn't think this through.
 
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