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Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by ironkhan57, Feb 5, 2020.

  1. ironkhan57 Banned Banned

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    So ive been sparring at the the ufc gym im at. And one thing i've noticed is my major weakness is a guy who pressures with the jab. And i started looking back on my other videos and i noticed that the pro fighter i sparred with he found very quick that the using volume jabs really gets me uncomfortable and pressures me a bit more especially the golden glovez champ i sparred in miami. And theres one kid i think hes the same age as me. He said he been training on and off for years. But his best aspect of his boxing skills is his jab, hes very good with it.

    So i told him ima need to spar with him more because he gives me more of a challenge and anybody who knowd how to throw a jab can quickly learn to pressure someone with it. And idk who i'm fighting on march 28th but if they train chances are they going to pressure me with that jab once they see how sometimes i have trouble reacting to it.
     
  2. StopDucking Ronda Rousey hater

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    You made the right observation but the wrong conclusion.

    Your problem isn't the jab, it's that you're fighting/sparring people who are way above your level.

    Yes, their jabs gave you trouble but do you think you would have done better had they thrown more crosses and hooks instead?

    In fact, I think the reason they mainly threw jabs instead of power punches is because they didn't want to knock you out.
     
  3. Woldog Undisputed Champion of Sherdog

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    You react poorly to any pressure put on you, jabs or straights it doesn't matter. If you fight anyone who pressures you right now you'll lose it's that simple.

    You're scared of being hit. With sparring you can train your body to react better to it.
     
  4. ironkhan57 Banned Banned

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    And this kid really has no fights but he played hockey so he knows how to fight but trained a little on and off for a while. But he gives me the most challenge. Theres a muay thai guy i spar boxing style with hes a bit bigger then me tries to keep me away with the jab but that guy its good for me to practice getting on the inside and ripping that body shots.
     
  5. ironkhan57 Banned Banned

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    @eternaldarkness i took your advice on the parries and it worked great against this kid a long with headmovement, but the 2nd round he got me more.
     
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    I've said this a few times. There isn't much technical advice to give you because at this stage you don't know anything. Just keep training and sparring and you'll get better - if you're having trouble with someone pressuring you, there isn't a technical reason or way to circumvent it - you just need to keep training.
     
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  8. ironkhan57 Banned Banned

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    Ok thank you. I mean i feel the best way is to have my instructor coach me a bit sparring with him. Especially if i dont want a weakness like that in my fight next month. If theres no other way for you guys to give me advice on relaxing a bit and getting more of my shots in then i guess sparring this kid and other people in there should be good mostly rhe kid with the good jab.

    I did remember a few peoples advice on my sparring videos. Thats why i was parrying his jab more and getting him with my shots. He did get me a few times with a right hand (thats basically his best punch his right hand cuz the jab is real good), then the 2nd round he got me more. He learnt and bit more and started moving back whenever i parried his jab. Honestly i got sloppy a bit in there too.

    I think would i could've done better was use more lateral movement to set up angles but i didnt i got to remember that.
     
  9. eternaldarkness Banned Banned

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    Parrying the jab works great to an extent, but the best thing to do is deny the jab by throwing your right over the top of their jab. I have probably said it before, but I will say it again, watch rocky Marciano. He broke the jab done better than any fighter I have ever seen, and actually has a similar style to you (likes to crouch and load up a big right hand). Also it's all about what you do with your feet when parrying. If you want to close the gap and set up the right, it's helps to take a small step forward and to your right as you parry. Like I said, watch Marciano, the guy was a killer.
     
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    Hint, watch where fighters like rocky and Robinson position their guard hand. The reason everybody is jabbing you up is that you have a strong right, but they are catching you as you get set to throw it and then moving away. You need to draw a lead and counter or set your right up with other punches more. WATCH MARCIANO!!!
     
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    The simplest counter to the jab, is parry and counter jab (head or body). The counter jab must be thrown at the same time that you parry the jab. I Highly recommend you do some jab and parry drills before sparring (I still warm up with drills, just so I can get a look at where their punches are coming from before sparring). Once you get a few counter jabs happening, you will find it a lot easier to land the overhands and left hook. I would like to see more sparring footage against less experienced fighters, just pm me if you don't want to deal with flaming.
     
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    I watched him ik what your talking about now.
     
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    he can barely box, telling him draw a lead and counter or to watch whoever won't help him at all and just feeds into his ego; to get better he just needs to actually be training like @AndyMaBobs said and going through basic shit with his coaches consistently
     
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    He parryies their jab and steps forward at the same time. This is the secret/cornerstone of his style. He steps in as their momentum is coming forward for the jab, it is the reason he was so effective at closing the gap. If you can do that it will add a heap of effectiness to your right hand. I learnt to use my right properly by watching Marciano. I could only land it occasionally, after studying Marciano and practicing it lots I can land my right hand at will against lesser opponents.
     
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    Everyone starts somewhere. And if he get's results from suggestions/advice that I give what's the harm? You realise he will fight anyway, with or without your, our anybody else's approval on sherdog. If I can improve his performance or allow him to get a bit more out of his training sessions I will always offer advice, even if it is a bit advanced.
     
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    Just watch heaps of Pacquiao videos and do exactly what he does
    1. Bounce around
    2. Throw a short combination after bouncing into range
    3. Smile and pull up pants
    4. Bounce into range and throw a 13 punch combo coming from all angles
    5. Have you won the fight? if no repeat steps 1 to 5.

    I just made you an ATG boxer right there.
     
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    Hey bro, I think the best thing you can do right now is get used to punches coming at you, and getting comfortable enough to fire back in an exchange. There's some awesome and simple partner drills my club does for this stuff but nobody will want to play with you. Instead in sparring you could just strip it down and build one piece at a time, reduce the amount of chaos so you get more comfortable with the fire coming at you.

    If I may suggest, ask your partners if they are willing to keep it to single jabs only for a few rounds. Practice defending their jab and throwing a jab back right away, and practice defending their own counter on your attacks. Limit footwork defense and stay in the pocket. Give that a try and see how it feels.
     
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    Great stuff. Gave me a laugh. And I get what your saying but... so people just like learning through experience, a.k.a the hard way.
     
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    I get telling him to watch other fighters seems like a smart thing to do, but all he'll do is confuse himself and overthink everything during a fight. Right now the only world champion he could emulate would be Ricardo Mayorga minus the chin.
     
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    Mayorga's dope.
     

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