I can’t be the only one…

[LoveSherdogThisTime]

Jon will have no problem in the stand up against Gane. I am predicting that Gane will have a harder time landing on Jon than Gus or Cormier did. There is a reason why Gane rarely throws combinations. Despite his jabs being quick and his foot work being second to none, his hands are not as quick as the likes of Aspinall, JDS or Miocic. This is why most of the time, his attacks are quite predictable to a point where it seems he has a few sets of choreographs that he repeats. It doesn’t help that Jon is notorious for being able to break a fighter’s rhythm.

Gane’s strength is his insane cardio. It’s insane because he is able to maintain his quickness and activity for five rounds while carrying all that mass. This fight will likely be determined by whether Gane will be able to maintain his quickness while on his backfeet.
Because I think this will be mostly a stand up fight with a lot of clinching. I don’t think Jon will be able to take Gane down and even if he does, hold him down. I am predicting that Gane’s footwork and core strength will prove to be too much for Jon to stubbornly attempt takedowns.

 

[RemyR]

TBH I think Gane is going to pick Jones apart

 

[Sonny Qc]

Gus size gave JBJ trouble,

Gane skills are on another level to Gus.

Gane 49-46

 

[StonedLemur]

Gus size gave JBJ trouble,

Gane skills are another level to Gus.

Gane 49-46

Gane KOing Jon would make me nut sir lol.

 

[13Seconds]

Im thinking Gane will kick his ass

 

[DoubleTrouble]

I think Jon's lack of power, lack of size advantage and age are going to cost him in this one.

 

[Reign009]

If Jon can't get Ciryl down or decides to stand with him for too long, he's fucked.

 

[ChimRichalds]

If this fight is decided on the feet, Gane will be the one to win. Jones is too smart to not pursue wrestling, and that's what will decide the fight. It will all come down to whether he can get the TDs, and at this point I doubt he can.

 

[StonedLemur]

If this fight is decided on the feet, Gane will be the one to win. Jones is too smart to not pursue wrestling, and that's what will decide the fight. It will all come down to whether he can get the TDs, and at this point I doubt he can.

I hope he eats a knee upon entry sir lol.

 

[ChimRichalds]

I hope he eats a knee upon entry sir lol.

For real. That would be awesome on so many levels. Not just for the satisfaction of seeing Jones laid out, but for what it would do for Ganes career

 

[Starman]

Punching speed isn't what will give Jon trouble against Gane, and it wasn't what gave him trouble against Gus, St. Preux, Santos, or Reyes. It was range. Jon's entire career was built on beating up smaller fighters that he could eat up as they were trying to close the distance.

Tall, rangy fighters that can connect with Jon from the outside without having to try and barrel their way in like Cormier give Jon fits and always have. It's always been Jon's weakness and always will be. He'll struggle in this fight as well, plus he'll have a long layoff and age to contend with. The added weight will be a hindrance to Jones as well. He'll plod even more and tire sooner.

 

[StonedLemur]

For real. That would be awesome on so many levels. Not just for the satisfaction of seeing Jones laid out, but for what it would do for Ganes career

Yeah and I think Jon's ex would send a bouquet of flowers to Gane lol

 

[Starman]

If this fight is decided on the feet, Gane will be the one to win. Jones is too smart to not pursue wrestling, and that's what will decide the fight. It will all come down to whether he can get the TDs, and at this point I doubt he can.

People keep putting this argument forward. Jon doesn't use his wrestling offensively anymore. At his age wrestling for 5 rounds probably isn't even possible. It will be a stand up fight, and he will struggle. Even if he wins, which is not guaranteed (he's not even the favorite, in my book), it won't be spectacular. It will be another controversial gift decision.

 

[ChimRichalds]

People keep putting this argument forward. Jon doesn't use his wrestling offensively anymore. At his age wrestling for 5 rounds probably isn't even possible. It will be a stand up fight, and he will struggle. Even if he wins, which is not guaranteed (he's not even the favorite, in my book), it won't be spectacular. It will be another controversial gift decision.

I agree. I don't think Jones gets any of his wrestling going. Gane is too mobile for Jones to consistently corner him, and if he does, I think Gane muscles his way out. If that's the case, then this fight does get ugly for Jones indeed.

 

[cshireman4]

Jon's reach is his only striking defense. Extends one arm, plasters the other to his eyebrow and circles away from his opponent's power. It's also why he has so many eye pokes. He is extremely hittable at HW imo

 

[Starman]

I agree. I don't think Jones gets any of his wrestling going. Gane is too mobile for Jones to consistently corner him, and if he does, I think Gane muscles his way out. If that's the case, then this fight does get ugly for Jones indeed.

I think most of the people picking Jones are Jones fans or casuals who only know Jon from YouTube. This is not the same Jon Jones that beat Shogun Rua. And unless he finds an undetectable fountain of youth to turn back the clock, I think it's pretty obvious this isn't going to be a great night for Jon, win or lose.

 

[jitzmonkey]

I think most of the people picking Jones are Jones fans or casuals who only know Jon from YouTube. This is not the same Jon Jones that beat Shogun Rua. And unless he finds an undetectable fountain of youth to turn back the clock, I think it's pretty obvious this isn't going to be a great night for Jon, win or lose.

Seems to come down to what Jon's real problem was over his past 3 fights.
If it was USADA, then he's going to have a long night.
If it was a lack of motivation, that's something much easier to overcome.

It's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[LoveSherdogThisTime]

Punching speed isn't what will give Jon trouble against Gane, and it wasn't what gave him trouble against Gus, St. Preux, Santos, or Reyes. It was range. Jon's entire career was built on beating up smaller fighters that he could eat up as they were trying to close the distance.

Tall, rangy fighters that can connect with Jon from the outside without having to try and barrel their way in like Cormier give Jon fits and always have. It's always been Jon's weakness and always will be. He'll struggle in this fight as well, plus he'll have a long layoff and age to contend with. The added weight will be a hindrance to Jones as well. He'll plod even more and tire sooner.

I disagree. Punching speed absolutely matters when you face Jon. Inside boxing was a threat that those opponents you listed posed for Jon. Gane lacks that which means he’ll have a very difficult time capitalizing on when he lands his jab or a kick.

Also, you are absolutely wrong about Jon not using his wrestling offensive anymore. Threat of clinch and his wrestling is what enables him to walk his opponents down no matter what. It also limits the versatility of attacks by his opponents.

You are condescending for no reason. Not everyone is a casual for disagreeing with you.

 

[Starman]

Seems to come down to what Jon's real problem was over his past 3 fights.
If it was USADA, then he's going to have a long night.
If it was a lack of motivation, that's something much easier to overcome.

It's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out.

USADA certainly had an impact, but even prime Jones struggled with Gus before he had all the other issues going on. I think styles are certainly going to play a factor in this fight.

 

[Starman]

I disagree. Punching speed absolutely matters when you face Jon.

Speed matters when you face any opponent. But it’s not why he struggles with tall fighters. He struggles against tall opponents for the same reason many of his opponents struggled against him - size. Reach, in particular.

Inside boxing was a threat that those opponents you listed posed for Jon.

Except they weren’t fighting inside. They were all fighting tall.

Gane lacks that which means he’ll have a very difficult time capitalizing on when he lands his jab or a kick.

Gane doesn’t lack size, which is what gives Jon trouble.

Also, you are absolutely wrong about Jon not using his wrestling offensive anymore. Threat of clinch and his wrestling is what enables him to walk his opponents down no matter what.

Jon doesn’t walk his opponents down. He fights tall, and keeps them on the outside of his punches, or stops their forward movement with oblique kicks.

If Jon walked fighters down he wouldn’t be poking everyone in the eye. The numerous eye pokes in Jon’s career are all the result of fighters trying to push in on him and close distance.

If and when they manage to walk through the eye pokes and oblique kicks, Jon clinches to avoid inside fighting, because he’s too tall to do it effectively. It’s textbook defensive wrestling.

It also limits the versatility of attacks by his opponents.

The single most effective maneuver Jon does is the oblique kick. Eye pokes and oblique kicks, by a large margin, are the most effective things Jon does to temper the aggression of his opponents.

You are condescending for no reason. Not everyone is a casual for disagreeing with you.

I wasn’t being condescending at all. And I didn’t say anyone who disagreed with me was a casual. I said people who think Jon will win this fight with offensive wrestling are either Jones fans or casuals who only saw clips of him on YouTube. And it’s the truth. How many fighters has Jon finished by ground and pound in the last decade?

Don’t confuse possibility with probability.