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I’ll just say it, we should stop acting like Nunes and Valentina are great fighters.

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  1. PlasticFishBowl Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    They are both occupying divisions that are absolute wastelands with no talent. They are obviously both talented relevant to their competition, and will likely both reign basically until they hit their 40s or decide to retire.

    But we shouldn’t be mentioning them in the same breath as someone like Khabib, Usman, Jones, or even lesser champs like Izzy or Volk.

    They are more like the dudes who won belts in the early 90s MMA. You have to take into account that they aren’t fighting good people. Amanda beating up 72 soccer moms in a row does not make her as good as Volk beating Max twice, or Izzy beating Rob once.
     
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    WMMA gonna WMMA... is normal.
     
  3. Ares Black Asteroid Belt

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    Imagine thinking that Valentina Shevchenko isn't a great fighter.

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  4. Melas Chasma Silver Belt

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    Ok, TS. Can you now name some examples from early 90's that were technically better and more well rounded in martial arts than Valentina?
     
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    You can be a great fighter and not be one of the greats and that's fine. Valentina is for sure a great fighter based on the technique and skill set.
     
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    We can't let these women parade around like they are deserving respect so lets find a way to belittle them!

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    I think only UFC employees do that, any UFC fan has them in their own WMMA category, and skill by skill Valentina is better imo, Rose is up there too, she just isnt as physically dominant as Nunes is to her division.
     
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  9. PlasticFishBowl Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    so notice I bring up 125, 135 and 145.

    115 is a fine division. It actually has multiple skilled fighters.
    It’s a bit different watching 115ers go at it versus watching Valentina hip toss and crucifix girls who are just smaller than her, or watching Amanda KO absolute cans at 145.
     
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    To say that BW has no talent is just wrong. There are 3 UFC champions/ex-champions in the division. But yes, 125 is pretty much trash.
     
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    I want nunez to remain being champion until shes 53, just to set unbeatable records in the world of mma.
     
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    No one does. If you wanted to go nuts, you could say Nunes is top P4P because she has two belts blah blah. But no one does.
     
  14. Melas Chasma Silver Belt

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    And how was Rickson, for example, more well rounded than Valentina?
     
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    They’re both great fighters. Nunes has the better victories though. Fuck out of here.
     
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    You are also implying that dudes who won belts in the 90s weren't great fighters which is a take worthy of a down syndrome diagnosis.
     
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    Shevchenko is much better striker than half those guys.
     
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  18. PlasticFishBowl Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    issue is, these divisions suck so much that someone else will come along right after her and also defend like 49 times. I honestly think there’s about 10 women’s featherweights on the planet and half of them are part time fighters. If you get one that’s slightly talented she can reign for a decade.
     
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  19. neomage2021 Silver Belt

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    LOL we can star at your first name on the list. In absolutely no way was Rickson even remotely on the same technical level as Valentina striking.

    In fact she is much better striker than most of those on the list and technical grappling wise ahead of many as well
     
  20. Joseph Alfano Yellow Belt

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    Valentina might just be the greatest womans combat athelete regardless of sport thats currently alive. But sure shes not that great. Tell me ts was it cheeto dust or dorito crumbs you had to wipe off your keyboard before typing this absolute garbage thread
     

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