Hows my olys?

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  1. nojoints

    nojoints White Belt

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    Done some olympic lifts, just got a camera to record it with and wondering what you guys thinks, so far I've only recorded power snatch and hang clean;

    Power snatch 50kg



    Power snatch 60kg



    Power snatch 55kg (went down because failed twice on second set 60kg and 55 didn't go so very well either but nonetheless)



    Power hang clean 50kg



    Power hang clean 50kg (second set)



    Power hang clean 40kg




    I'll try get other angles if you guys want, appreciate the help!

    EDIT: need to learn to work on those embeddings (yes got em working!)
     
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  2. DrBdan

    DrBdan Something clever

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    I'm not an expert but the one thing that jumps out at me is that when you hit full extension your elbows are already bent. This means you are losing power. See you vs. an Olympic lifter:

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  3. nojoints

    nojoints White Belt

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    Thanks for pointing that out, didn't think about that one :redface: explains why I failed at second 60kg set.
     
  4. milano

    milano I am the Walrus

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    Jake Pudenz Green Belt Professional Fighter

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    You might try starting with your feet closer together and slight external rotation of your feet. That way when you extend fully, you allow yourself to get taller which, in turn, allows you to pull the bar higher on your second pull. On your catch try to only shuffle your feet out a couple of inches on each side as well.
     
  6. nojoints

    nojoints White Belt

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    Ok, love power cleans more then power snatches but am sick atm with a cold and fever so as soon as it clears up I'll get new videos.

    Will do! Thanks
     
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  7. Gross Ass

    Gross Ass White Belt

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    Bottom line: your olys are terrible. Stop what you're doing and get yourself to a coach. I'm not trying to be mean, but this needs to be taken seriously.

    You cannot learn olys by reading an MMA board, watching a few videos, or "figuring it out." The comments about bending your arms and not getting full extension are accurate although incomplete, but neither suggests how to fix the underlying problems. I can't tell you how to fix those problems either, nor can anyone do so properly in a couple paragraphs. It takes weeks and months of personal attention and targeted drills to achieve basic competency. You also have many, many other technical flaws such that it's pointless to list them. You are unlikely to develop any explosive power and very likely to get injured if you continue on this path by yourself.

    You need a coach who is certified as such by USAW, who has competed in WL on a national level, and who preferably works full-time in athletics or physiological sciences. They are all over the place and in my experience they're more interested in training young and driven athletes than they are making money. If you absolutely cannot or refuse to get coaching (which would be dumb), then buy a respected book (Greg Everett, Tommy Kono, Arthur Dreschler) on WL and read the whole thing cover to cover before you even attempt another OL. Then you can start videoing yourself doing the beginning drills and work your way up from there. When you take video, it should always be from 3/4 from the front, your feet must be fully visible, you need to leave enough room at the top so the lockout overhead can be seen clearly.

    Please get a coach; your performance will improve exponentially in all aspects of life. Best of luck.
     
  8. KILL KILL

    KILL KILL Gold Belt

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    Are they bad? Yes. Does everyone that wants to learn olys need to shell out cash for a coach? No. He just needs to continue working on his form and he'll be alright. I'd suggest not using heavy weight until the form is a little more proper though.
     
  9. VoodooPlata

    VoodooPlata Brown Belt

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    ...although not in the south of Sweden, where i believe TS is located. Right?
     
  10. Fedorable

    Fedorable 1/1024th Mod

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    keep up the good work TS.
     
  11. milano

    milano I am the Walrus

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    You don't need a coach.

    A coach would be beneficial and would make the process of learning the lifts faster and easier but you can learn them and learn to do them pretty well with videos books and lots of practice.

    I have some excerpts from Everett's book if you want.

    Here's some useful links

    Catalyst Athletics: Exercise Video Demos and Descriptions
    Benn's Weightlifting Videos vids from arnold classic are slow motion, check em out
    Gayle Hatch Olympic Lifting :: Broadband Video Channel
    Tommy Kono Technique + Training Lecture - Weightlifting Exchange

    Also bear in mind that they are probably the most difficult lifts to learn properly so it will take time.
     
  12. nojoints

    nojoints White Belt

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    I know my snatch is terrible that is why I ask for help, been looking at videos etc and I know that is not the best way to do it, I've gotten help from a friend whose trained as boxer in his younger days and did olys has helped me a little bit but he's busy alot.

    Well injury is not something I'm afraid of, already got a disc hernia and gotten back from it and can do heavy lifting again without any strains (and no guys no need to post about OH NOEZ DO NOT LIFT HEAVY IF DISC HERNIA, I know what I can and can't do, videos of weightlifting (got better form in this) will be posted aswell when I'm ending my oly lifting weeks but that's a different story(or thread whichever you prefer) )

    Can't really afford a coach and I know I'm not super good at snatches atleast which is why I posted like everyone else does on these forums and want input on what and how to improve (like the one who asks about their squat and deadlift form)

    And lastly the gym is a cramped basement gym, the videocamera wasn't on a tripod (which I've bought this week) and had to film from a bench hence the bad angle so the videos will have better angles.

    Will use only 40kg next time (they don't got those 2.5kg big ones in the gym so can't go lower)

    Thank you for the links, will save and read them trying to learn more. Would love to have some excerpts from his book if you'd like to PM it :)

    Thank you guys for the replies, not trying to become world champ in oly lifting just need it to become a little stronger/explosive and only doing power lifting gets boring after few months so gotta switch it up a bit.
     
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  13. MASShole

    MASShole Get it?

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    The thing that helped me learn to keep my arms straight was doing a lot of lifts from the hang. It taught me to suck the bar into my hips and explode upward. You don't really try to lift the bar overhead with your arms - think of them as taut ropes. You can also try to pull apart the bar when you're doing the lift, as it will keep your arms locked until extension.
     

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