how would you feel about a fighter who..

[RepairManManMan]

got in, won the belt, and retired champion? Sort of like what Conor says he wants to do.

To elaborate, many fighters become champion and then want to defend the championship, maybe many times over o perhaps only once. In other situations, they might lose the title right after they win it.

But how many have retired after a crazy run to win the belt? Maybe it's not as impressive or possible in todays setting as it was in the old tournament setting. To give an example I reluctantly want too, Shogun wins the GP and then retires. Or,JDS retires after he beats cain. Or lesnar after he beats mir, etc.

Basically, a fighter has a better array of challengers on the WAY to the title compared to the array of challengers left after he or she wins it. Or perhaps there is some kind of interesting road block to the title, such as Lesnar being a crossover athlete with little mma experience.

If conor say, won the fw belt, didn't defend, then went up to LW and won the belt, didn't defend, and then won the belt at ww, then retired a 3 wc champion, would you respect his retirement? Or would he have to defend it?

Have any fighters done this? Maybe Frank Shamrock or Royce?

 

[Se4n]

It's harder to maintain the belt than it is to win it. That would be the easy way out.

However I don't care at all. His life his career.

 

[Duke Silver]

Some probably would, I'd be cool with it - but then Dana throws dat Mighty Mouse Johnson money at them and they can't resist the sweet smell of green.

 

[chunglii]

It would have been amazing if Hunt did that.

 

[HaulParris]

I did that in UFC Undisputed

 

[RepairManManMan]

I did that in UFC Undisputed

haha so did I in the second one where you could talk trash after the fights

 

[PanikAnikPanik]

got in, won the belt, and retired champion? Sort of like what Conor says he wants to do.

To elaborate, many fighters become champion and then want to defend the championship, maybe many times over o perhaps only once. In other situations, they might lose the title right after they win it.

But how many have retired after a crazy run to win the belt? Maybe it's not as impressive or possible in todays setting as it was in the old tournament setting. To give an example I reluctantly want too, Shogun wins the GP and then retires. Or,JDS retires after he beats cain. Or lesnar after he beats mir, etc.

Basically, a fighter has a better array of challengers on the WAY to the title compared to the array of challengers left after he or she wins it. Or perhaps there is some kind of interesting road block to the title, such as Lesnar being a crossover athlete with little mma experience.

If conor say, won the fw belt, didn't defend, then went up to LW and won the belt, didn't defend, and then won the belt at ww, then retired a 3 wc champion, would you respect his retirement? Or would he have to defend it?

Have any fighters done this? Maybe Frank Shamrock or Royce?

if anyone didn't respect that, then they are just an absolute hater. it's impossible not to respect that.

 

[HHJ]

it doesnt really work like that. Conor is embedded so deep in contracts that its probably more trouble than its worth to even attempt to do that,besides,the hard work it takes to become champion,just to throw it all away with everyone callin ya a wuss and givin ya the business for not even defending it. The mma world doesnt work like that generally. In boxing you can do that,cos the titles are meaningless.

 

[the ax murderer]

I wouldn't be surprised if Conor did move up if he beat Aldo, he doesn't like the weight cut one bit.

It's hard to say what the reactions would be if what you said happens TS, as it would be very different than anything that's come before.

If someone won 3 belts consecutively they'd deserve a huge amount of respect, but they would also have a lot of detractors pointing to contenders that could have beaten them.

 

[YES Cartwheel]

A champion isn't a real champion until he defends the title.

It would be a disservice to guys like Anderson, GSP and Jones if someone were to win a title then retire. I think they would tarnish their own legacy compared to these champions. What you're basically saying by winning a championship then retiring right away is "I want the title just for the prestige of having it on my record, and can't hang with the rigors and pressure of being the top guy".

It's a bitchmade move, in my opinion, unless there are serious injuries or age as factors towards the decision to retire.

 

[aModerateThreat]

i wouldnt care. people should live their lives for themselves, not for me.

 

[Paynebringer]

got in, won the belt, and retired champion? Sort of like what Conor says he wants to do.

To elaborate, many fighters become champion and then want to defend the championship, maybe many times over o perhaps only once. In other situations, they might lose the title right after they win it.

But how many have retired after a crazy run to win the belt? Maybe it's not as impressive or possible in todays setting as it was in the old tournament setting. To give an example I reluctantly want too, Shogun wins the GP and then retires. Or,JDS retires after he beats cain. Or lesnar after he beats mir, etc.

Basically, a fighter has a better array of challengers on the WAY to the title compared to the array of challengers left after he or she wins it. Or perhaps there is some kind of interesting road block to the title, such as Lesnar being a crossover athlete with little mma experience.

If conor say, won the fw belt, didn't defend, then went up to LW and won the belt, didn't defend, and then won the belt at ww, then retired a 3 wc champion, would you respect his retirement? Or would he have to defend it?

Have any fighters done this? Maybe Frank Shamrock or Royce?

I'm old school view when it comes to winning belts and I'm supported in my ideology by tradition. When a challenger wins the belt he his now title holder and Champ. The 1st time he defends that title successfully he not only remains Champ he must now be called "Undisputed Champion".

If Conor McGregor were ever to achieve such a thing I would definitely acknowledge the feat, but question the man on not being a Undisputed Champion, big ass astrix mark beside that accomplishment if such thing were to happen.

 

[Paynebringer]

A champion isn't a real champion until he defends the title.

It would be a disservice to guys like Anderson, GSP and Jones if someone were to win a title then retire. I think they would tarnish their own legacy compared to these champions. What you're basically saying by winning a championship then retiring right away is "I want the title just for the prestige of having it on my record, and can't hang with the rigors and pressure of being the top guy".

It's a bitchmade move, in my opinion, unless there are serious injuries or age as factors towards the decision to retire.

Were we separated at birth?

 

[Da Speeink]

Would be pissed honesty, but it's their choice.

 

[Spycho]

It would have been amazing if Hunt did that.

LOL, imagine that. A pissed off, red and sweaty Dana trying to get that belt around that large waist and Mark paddding him on his head, saying save yourself the trouble, I am retiring.

 

[RepairManManMan]

LOL, imagine that. A pissed off, red and sweaty Dana trying to get that belt around that large waist and Mark paddding him on his head, saying save yourself the trouble, I am retiring.

how bout cain retiring after beating lesnar?

or serra after gsp?

 

[Hanz_Blitz]

You would have to respect a scenario like that but who in their right mind thinks Conor beats Pettis or Lawler

 

[Zyn]

wouldn't mean much to me with no title defenses. But to clean out a division, then retire would be amazing. So far the only UFC champ that's done it that I know of is GSP. If he comes back and wins a few... then retires for good, he will be the GAOT in my book. If he loses, his legacy is done.

(Jones is almost there, but he's not gonna retire after Johnson) If he did, he would be in the history books as the undisputed best ever.

(edit) 4200 posts in 2 years? talk about compulsive diehard. lol

 

[Spycho]

how bout cain retiring after beating lesnar?

or serra after gsp?

Would've been fun but Dana would just have handed the belts back to Brock and GSP with relief. Imagine Cain and Werdum bound to fight in Mexico in a huge sold out stadium, breaking all PPV records. Werdum gets hurt, all HW's are tied except Nelson. They touch gloves, Roy slings an overhand right and knocks Cain out cold. Dana, nearly crying, tries to hand him the belt but Roy says: "Thanks baldie, how much cheeseburgers is that thing worth? I quit. " I would literally die laughing.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

i'd be saddened and then i'd watch other fighters fight. because that fighter isn't fighting anymore.

i certainly wouldn't waste any emotional energy (as many others seem so willing to do) on it.