How will you remember

ForeverYoung said:
Regardless of your opinion of the man drunk and high Jon Jones destroys your favorite fighter.
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And that may very well be the case, but what my favorite fighter will never do is be stripped of his title 3 times.
 
StonedLemur said:
Ok, what do you suggest?
Like an all around handy man, or more of a General Contractor?

Or do you mean with this crook in my neck?

Your concern is dually noted though.
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How about an intern?

They are like an employee that you don't have to pay.

They could get you coffee, post art projects of yours or your wife's as listings on etsy or Ebay....

________________

"Offices of Lemur and Lemur announcing internship opportunity!!

No financial compensation to start but if you work really hard for a couple of years we could discuss the possibility of a small vCash stipend!!

Post your resumes, recommendation letters and feet pics in Mayberry."

*Serious inquiries only.
 
jeff7b9 said:
How about an intern?

They are like an employee that you don't have to pay.

They could get you coffee, post art projects of yours or your wife's as listings on etsy or Ebay....

________________

"Offices of Lemur and Lemur announcing internship opportunity!!

No financial compensation to start but if you work really hard for a couple of years we could discuss the possibility of a small vCash stipend!!

Post your resumes, recommendation letters and feet pics in Mayberry."

*Serious inquiries only.
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Lmao, im dyin ya bastad.
Yours was way better than mine lol
 
Eh he is the GOAT for now. I hated him a lot for the majority of his career. I thought he was someone who was just going to give up if they catch him. He has a strong drive to win. He is also talented and lucky. He can party and not train hard.
 
Will be amongst the best to ever do it.

I dont really care about personal life stuff, he is a fighter I dont expect them to be the pinnacle of society.

Him, Anderson and GSP round out my three GOATS. Where they fall in the top 3 is up for debate.
 
elreece said:
Will be amongst the best to ever do it.

I dont really care about personal life stuff, he is a fighter I dont expect them to be the pinnacle of society.

Him, Anderson and GSP round out my three GOATS. Where they fall in the top 3 is up for debate.
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That's fair sir, Im not trying to sway you.
 
StonedLemur said:
Jon Jones when he finally fucks off into retirement?

Will you remember his for the criminal, drug addled, cheating mess that he is?

Or will you swing from his testicles and act like the last 5-6 years of his career didn't happen?

I personally think he won't be remembered longer than it takes to get an oil change, but that's just me.

When I look at Jon Jones I see a massively talented fighter that wasted half of his career in suspension, court, getting stripped of his belt more than once, drugs, PEDs, and assaults.
Really left a lot on the table, and a lot to be desired.
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I’ll remember him as a massively talented, fake Christian, drug cheat, eye poking, Aspinal ducking doucebag that hit and ran a pregnant woman and hid under the octagon at his gym to avoid a drug test.
 
I will remember him as an eye poking, knee hyper extending steroid cheat who could have been the greatest ever but left too much doubt with his cheating.
 
StonedLemur said:
Jon Jones when he finally fucks off into retirement?

Will you remember his for the criminal, drug addled, cheating mess that he is?

Or will you swing from his testicles and act like the last 5-6 years of his career didn't happen?

I personally think he won't be remembered longer than it takes to get an oil change, but that's just me.

When I look at Jon Jones I see a massively talented fighter that wasted half of his career in suspension, court, getting stripped of his belt more than once, drugs, PEDs, and assaults.
Really left a lot on the table, and a lot to be desired.
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The longer his career's gone on, the less I like him. He was most impressive early on, and when he beat Shogun it was like, damn he's amazing.

Then he started to be known as a dirty fighter. Oblique kicks, fine, but the eye pokes are a real piss off. You've got this guy with incredible physical gifts, he has the height and upper body of a HW, but his legs are skinny so he can fight at LHW. Longest reach ever except for a guy who's almost 7 feet tall. And what does he do? Sticks his fingers in people's faces constantly. I don't think he was in a title fight during his best years where he didn't poke his man in the eyes. He couldn't compete without it.

When he fought Gus I thought he scraped by because of that big spinning elbow. Later on I changed my mind about that because Gus didn't go down and was still defending takedowns. Jon is so lucky he got the nod that night because it would have dramatically altered his legacy. No LHW defence record.

Then after that, those are his PED years. And I don't care about his criminality, but I think that attitude extends towards his cheating in the cage. First Cormier fight, something's fishy. Beats OSP, later stripped for PEDs. Rematches Cormier, stripped for PEDs. Rematches Gus, they had to move states because of PEDs. Testing commission invents a reason to explain it.

I dunno it's just a farce now, so many things about his career are fake. The idea that he doesn't train, bullshit, he takes this more seriously than anyone. That's part of the reason why he's so good. Then guys like Stipe get roasted for beating people older than them, when Jon built his career off the backs of older champs and gets praised to the moon. Or how someone Jon beats can improve after, fans go "that win is aging well", but if they start losing after it becomes "WOW Jon takes dudes' souls".

I think people just like to cheer for a guy who they can say never lost. The 'psychopath' shit really took off with the Cormier rivalry, and those are the fights where Jon had the most eyes on him. They are actually the lowest point in his career, but people still love him for it.
 
Its always going to be a very mixed bag looking back at him. At his best he was one of the most unbeatable fighters ever in MMA. But hes also a total asshole, had huge gaps in his activity levels, is now in full cherry picking mode and was never as compelling or fun to watch as some of the other GOAT contenders because it just felt like a guy who had all of the physical advantages over his opponents (especially because he stayed at LHW for so long) easily beating people in a very workmanlike fashion.
 
CombatCyborg said:
The longer his career's gone on, the less I like him. He was most impressive early on, and when he beat Shogun it was like, damn he's amazing.

Then he started to be known as a dirty fighter. Oblique kicks, fine, but the eye pokes are a real piss off. You've got this guy with incredible physical gifts, he has the height and upper body of a HW, but his legs are skinny so he can fight at LHW. Longest reach ever except for a guy who's almost 7 feet tall. And what does he do? Sticks his fingers in people's faces constantly. I don't think he was in a title fight during his best years where he didn't poke his man in the eyes. He couldn't compete without it.

When he fought Gus I thought he scraped by because of that big spinning elbow. Later on I changed my mind about that because Gus didn't go down and was still defending takedowns. Jon is so lucky he got the nod that night because it would have dramatically altered his legacy. No LHW defence record.

Then after that, those are his PED years. And I don't care about his criminality, but I think that attitude extends towards his cheating in the cage. First Cormier fight, something's fishy. Beats OSP, later stripped for PEDs. Rematches Cormier, stripped for PEDs. Rematches Gus, they had to move states because of PEDs. Testing commission invents a reason to explain it.

I dunno it's just a farce now, so many things about his career are fake. The idea that he doesn't train, bullshit, he takes this more seriously than anyone. That's part of the reason why he's so good. Then guys like Stipe get roasted for beating people older than them, when Jon built his career off the backs of older champs and gets praised to the moon. Or how someone Jon beats can improve after, fans go "that win is aging well", but if they start losing after it becomes "WOW Jon takes dudes' souls".

I think people just like to cheer for a guy who they can say never lost. The 'psychopath' shit really took off with the Cormier rivalry, and those are the fights where Jon had the most eyes on him. They are actually the lowest point in his career, but people still love him for it.
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The honesty in this post is something that everyone should look at sir.
This is the kind of post that keeps me here (that and the awesome folks that reside here) such as yourself.

The guy has talent, he obviously works hard like you said, yet he can't stop cheating in one way or another.
In a career that should be lauded to the hilt, it kinda falls flat for me, for the reasons you states and more.

Well said big guy.
 
TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle said:
Its always going to be a very mixed bag looking back at him. At his best he was one of the most unbeatable fighters ever in MMA. But hes also a total asshole, had huge gaps in his activity levels, is now in full cherry picking mode and was never as compelling or fun to watch as some of the other GOAT contenders because it just felt like a guy who had all of the physical advantages over his opponents (especially because he stayed at LHW for so long) easily beating people in a very workmanlike fashion.
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Its like looking at a beautiful woman but the second she opens her mouth you wish you could take it back....I understand completely sir lol.

In all seriousness, he could've be the biggest thing ever and coke and slappin his wife around on his Hall of Fame induction night... took center stage.
The PEDs, the 3 times getting stripped for his title, the shooting guns out of his car window while drinking with homeless people, the chokehold and slappin the waitresses pussy....etc

Fuckin guy is a danger to himself and others, and unfortunately that's what he'll be remembered for.
 
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