How was Guillard favored over Varner?

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  1. FedorandBjpenn

    FedorandBjpenn Banned Banned

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    Cain Velasquez, Derek Brunson, Jamie Varner and Myles Jury all fooled the oddsmakers according to Sherdog.

    I agree but....... How the hell was Guillard favored over Varner? Guillard constantly gets grapple fu**ed and beaten by complete fighters. I just thought this was an easy pick. Varner is a way better fighter than Melvin.
     
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    Even Vegas messes up occasionally. I can't believe Struve is favored over Hunt. Did Struve develop GSP like wrestling and Maia like jujitsu?
     
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    Hunt got submitted by Sean McCorkle. Just because he's faced guys with no submission ability lately it doesn't mean he's somehow now immune to subs.
     
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    lol. If he can take Hunt down he has a good chance for submission. Not to long ago Hunt got subbed by Mccorkle. that being said........... Hunt by TKO round 1. Hunt should def be favored I agree
     
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    The last odds I saw before the fight had Varner vs. Guillard as the definition of a toss-up.
     
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    oops i didnt see ur post
     
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    It's easy to call it an easy pick with retrospect, a lot of people agree on both fighters being hot and cold. Were the lines not pretty close? I favoured Varner slightly but didn't put any money down because I didnt think there was much value on his line
     
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    Since when you need Maia like BJJ to submit Hunt?

    And Struve can just pull guard, like he did against Lavar Johnson.
     
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    I was suprised Guillard was favoured too, pretty easy pick imo, tbh I even thought Varner was gunna finish Guillard. But with that said, if I remember correctly, the lines were almost even so whatever
     
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    hindsight is 20/20

    i'm sure you made a boatload betting on varner

    guillard doesn't get grapplefucked, getting caught in a submission (usually after being dazed =/= being grapplefucked)
     
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    I agree Hunt should be able to knock him out in the first. Struve will not take him down and submit him.
     
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    Guillard isn't prone to getting grapple fucked. I really think it's mental issues with him. Guillard in 2010/2011 was an incredible fighter. He was never the same after Jlau schooled him.
     
  14. MMA is so new...these oddsmakers dont really know how to gauge it...w/ that being said, guillard was only a small favorite...not like it was lopsided...picked varner to win...wasnt a lock but i felt pretty confident enough to drop a little $ on it...
     
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    Struve by sub or Hunt by KO wouldn't shock me either way.
     
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    This

    As long as he a Yoshida/McCockle like BJJ, he should be fine. Struve won't even need a minute to finish Hunt on the ground if it goes there.

    Also, Hunt has been taken down by Wand, Cro Cop, Yoshida and even Rothwell.
     
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    That fight could have went either way.
     
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    because melvin is so damn explosive
     
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    Because people forget about truly great Jamie's boxing & wrestling are.
     

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