How useful are bicep muscles?

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  1. FCAthlete34

    FCAthlete34 White Belt

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    So me and my roommate got into an argument the other day about isolation workouts. Basically, we both bench but he also works out his separate muscles like doing bicep curls. I told him that biceps will grow as your bench increases (neighboring muscles must grow). Keep in mind that I am following Pavel's book "Power to the people", so I am also doing deadlifts.

    Are biceps really that useful in MMA? Should I be doing isolation exercises or is that just a waste of time? Please share some insights if you have experience.
     
  2. ThinkGreen

    ThinkGreen Der Übermensch

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    No they are not very useful in MMA
     
  3. blakethemus

    blakethemus Blake Belt

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    Not usefull at all. Cut them off and save weight so you can fight at a lower weight class.
     
  4. magicman531

    magicman531 Try Sarah Topps Banned

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    Useful? Sure, they allow me to bend my arm towards my shoulder. Also I can lift things with them. It's not a bad idea to do some direct bicep work after you've done your major lifts. Don't avoid it like the plague. Just don't make it the focus of your workout. imo
     
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    ThinkGreen Der Übermensch

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    And if you're doing curlz over chinz then you're doing something wrong
     
  6. Andy Rickert

    Andy Rickert Amateur Fighter

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    Biceps are super important. I devote tuesday, thursday, and saturday to biceps. And by that I mean squats, deadlifts, and everything else not directly bicep related.
     
  7. vision1

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    If I didn't have them, my arms wouldn't work. so.....

    EDIT: bench and deadlifts don't do much for them.
     
  8. Andy Rickert

    Andy Rickert Amateur Fighter

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    that to
     
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    Chaseg1520 Green Belt

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    I heard ChaseT has a secret room in his house for preacher curls.....
     
  10. Andy Rickert

    Andy Rickert Amateur Fighter

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    its called "the room of truth"
     
  11. ghostwipe

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    You don't need to isolate them, but I wouldn't neglect them either, especially if you play rugby, or football or other sports where you need to tackle.

    Do some pullups and bent over rows.
     
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    Gary Peters Purple Belt Professional Fighter

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    Just do your main compound lifts and throw in 2-3 sets of curls at the end, its not that difficult or time consuming.
     
  13. Donut62

    Donut62 Black Belt

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    I think everyone throws in some curls from time to time. No need to focus or worry about them or plan them in. You can do bullshit lifts whenever you want.
     
  14. CarnalSalvation

    CarnalSalvation Trying to make a Milankey

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    Exactly. There's absolutely no reason not to curl. I takes very little time or energy compared to the big three, the quick lifts, or even things like rows.

    I recently started curling gain, when I realized there are guys who can curl twice what I can, and squat less than half as much. That's just stupid on BOTH sides.
     
  15. ratman201

    ratman201 S&P's resident Chef

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    You can't masturbate without the bicep, so they are very important.
     
  16. vision1

    vision1 Purple Belt

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    You could probably just pinch with your elbows.
     
  17. CarnalSalvation

    CarnalSalvation Trying to make a Milankey

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    That's why I train grip and am a CoC.

    So I can pleasure myself something FIERCE!
     
  18. ratman201

    ratman201 S&P's resident Chef

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    As long as there is rest time between the two, otherwise one ends up being disappointing/frustrating.
     
  19. Urban

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    I do 3x10-20 of a curl variation about once a month (thickbar curls and hammer curls are really the only two I keep in rotation). as a rule, they're very low priority exercises, and done primarily for injury prevention and strengthening connective tissue (had an issue at a grip comp a while back with the 500 lb Trap bar hold for time). The biceps are an essential muscle in your arm for movement purposes, but as far as being critical in terms of training them hard for more power or something, leave it to compound exercises like rows, chins and pullups. Isolation for injury prevention only IMO.
     
  20. Frenzy1

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    They're useful for hanging out your car window when you're driving.
     

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