How to do a Takedown - Mental issue!

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  1. Gordinho

    Gordinho Green Belt

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    Hey,

    i got a huge problem. Even in training, i am afaird of takedowns. Is that a Jiu jitsu thing? My Baiana and my single legs are fine, my uchimata is ok too, but i am afaird to do it. Some kind of fear...

    I feel like, "ohh i get sprawl, i might try to get the points by a sweep."

    I almost lose a comp fight of that....
     
  2. Grey Kid

    Grey Kid Orange Belt

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    It's weird. I get the same hesitations when going for throws but not when striking.

    I'm not sure why, but I just feel more comfortable standing up and banging than going for a takedown or swimming in for the clinch. There's a fear that I'll not penetrate deep enough, or not get the head position correctly etc.

    I've been doing this stuff for 4 years too, so you'd think I'd have grown out of it. It's not that I don't shoot, I just don't like to, if that makes any sense.
     
  3. Samjj

    Samjj Blue Belt

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    think of yourself like a shotgun.


    ch ch pow
     
  4. WrestlingNerd

    WrestlingNerd Green Belt

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    Just drill take downs over and over again until you can do and finish them automatically without thinking.
     
  5. Iosephus

    Iosephus sleazy male stripper

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    bingo. people are gunshy about takedowns and end up telegraphing them

    drill them over and over and over. you will eventually attempt takedowns without even thinking about it

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  6. Sharkk

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    I don't really like shooting. A lot of the guys I roll with are awesome wrestlers, and I can contribute that to them.
     
  7. damit2hell

    damit2hell Guest

    commit commit commit commit commit... and commit
     
  8. Paige

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    I love this drill. I almost peuked at the end of the 2 minutes the first time, but it did wonders for me.

    I'd have to say TD's are the weakest point in my game right now. I don't think I would call it fear, but I'm def hesitant about setting up my shot. The first TD of the day is always the hardest, but by the end of class I'm fired up and nail them.

    Build your confidence. Take some wrestling. He who does it the most (CORRECTLY) wins.
     
  9. Q mystic

    Q mystic Silver Belt

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    You do lots of throwing drills right? Lots of throws, lots of uchikomi?

    Also, how you do rolling breakfalls. Do them using a hi-jump line with a belt and doing jumping rolling breakfalls over it. Get as high as you can. Seriously, it teaches you that you can make time slow down:D by speeding up your measuring device.
     
  10. yodaman

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    I'm kinda the same way. I shoot sloppy or I hesitate on occasion. It's really a matter of doing it constantly, and training it constantly.

    Cross-training with a wrestling-based school along with my BJJ has helped this along. Just drill the TD's and do some randori, it's the only way.
     
  11. Azy

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    Is that you are scared/worried about hurting yourself, others or just ending up in a bad position? If it is the first then stop worrying. It will hurt sometimes. As mentioned before if you are going for it then commit. You can't do it half arsed. It is a little like breaking. If you are scared you will not do it and only hurt yourself. The worst that can happen is it hurts, you mess it up and end up underneath. No great problem. This will happen from time to time and gives you an opportunity to learn more from the back or side. It is just breaking the mental fear and knowing nothing that bad will happen. I don't particularly like the flying armbar for fear of landing on my head but hey it will only hurt.
     
  12. BeRGLeZ

    BeRGLeZ Ramenbowl

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    I share the same sentiments. I am AFRAID to shoot because I don't want to be sprawled on, especially since I have no takedown experience..
    However, recently I've been working double legs from the clinch which seems to work for me. I don't 'shoot' like wrestlers, I just clinch up and drop for takedowns.
     
  13. BeRGLeZ

    BeRGLeZ Ramenbowl

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    btw what I worry most about is failing, and wasting up alot of energy from it.
     
  14. greggsauce

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    Practice takedowns against stronger opponents, when you shoot for a takedown it helps for me to think like a wrestler. like

    "i'm screwed if I'm on my back" so I really shoot in hard and watch everything he does, my initial take down usually doesnt work but the one after it does
     
  15. georgejjr

    georgejjr Black Belt

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    Its simple. Drill, drill, drill, and then when doing standup grappling try, try, try. We see this all the time in judo and wrestling, and the solution is always the same ... do it enough and it will seem natural. From the "familiarity breeds contempt" school of coaching :icon_chee
     
  16. Shabba Ranks

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    I don't have a problem with my shots or throws, but I do have one with my sprawls
    I have some good sprawls and takedowns from wrestling as a kid, so I do quite good when facing wrestlers.
    However when I see a bad shot coming, instead of sprawling I start thinking ahead about how to take advantage of the takedown and I end up on my back. It might actually be better to shoot slow than to do it the proper way against me :/
     
  17. chuteboxfan7

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    just dont hesitate.and when you shoot once you get a hold of him dont stop you really have to drive through him.oh and keep your head up,this will help you not get stuffed so easily.
     
  18. masada555

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    That's a high double. A very effective takedown at all levels.
     
  19. SLaKKJaW

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    QFT! And that drill in the video is, in my opinion, the BEST DRILL EVER for people like us who are not wrestlers to get used to using takedowns. You do it so fast you have no time to think about screwing up, your "opponent" is working with you, so you're not burning up gas as bad while you're learning and you get comfortable with it in the same way you get comfortable drilling armbars or triangles or the like. The only thing that is a must is having someone who knows what they're looking at keep an eye on your form. You don't want to drill anything sloppy, ever.
     

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