how to beat JDS

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  1. Tea Cake

    Tea Cake the cake is a lie.

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    the counter puncher version JDS can be beat with these:

    - head movement
    - pressure (striking/takedown)

    now thats IF JDS keeps his counter punching style next time we see him

    now i havnt watched enough overeem but if he can do those, he'l win if not hes getting ko

    for ex. if overeem leaves his head open (no headmovement) when he uses pressure (will prob be all striking with no takedown) hes going to sleep.
     
  2. PAPERCLIP30

    PAPERCLIP30 Silver Belt

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    Nobody is gonna be able to keep the pressure like Cain did.


    Jds is gonna go undefeated for a while. The only one who can beat him is Cain.
     
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    Others will try and copy what Cain did. It will be interesting to see if they have any success.
     
  4. tenniswhiz

    tenniswhiz Steel Belt

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    And who is the only one who can defeat Cain?
     
  5. countswagula

    countswagula Gold Belt

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    Junior probably. Overeem doesn't have the speed, plus he would gas instantly.
     
  6. BMFOAT67

    BMFOAT67 Green Belt

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    So what you're saying is 'don't leave your head open when you rush in against a boxer'

    thanks for clearing that up.
     
  7. EmeliankoFan1

    EmeliankoFan1 Red Belt

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    Cormier and that is just at HW.
     
  8. mutepoint

    mutepoint Purple Belt

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    I'm pretty sure that although that recipe is true, not many can do it aside from Cain. The pace that Cain sets is intense.

    Cormier may have that skill as well, but I'd like to see if in the UFC and such.

    I think Cain and JDS can trade the belt back and forth for a bit. JDS should come back from this with a great idea of what to change within his style, Cain will return with a LOT of confidence.
     
  9. Tea Cake

    Tea Cake the cake is a lie.

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    yep thats how easy it is to beat JDS yet fighters always gets hit. funny how something so simple didnt work for many fighters. cain did the pacman approach, pressure with head movement because like pac he can (speed adv/cardio adv)

    how many heavies have that against jds? prob none
     
  10. fightdonttweet

    fightdonttweet Banned Banned

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    He has the power and the knees to punish a wrestler. While he can't keep Cain's pace, he has a good shot at ending the fight early with the way Cain is reckless with his defense. It will be an interesting fight.
     
  11. Tea Cake

    Tea Cake the cake is a lie.

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    pressure wont work without cardio, does cormier have 5x5rds of that? i hope so
     
  12. D'Arce 101

    D'Arce 101 Orange Belt

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    Agreed. I think sadly it will look like when KenFlo tried to beat BJ for the LW title by employing the GSP strategy and I think we all saw how that went.
     
  13. Big Brother

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    Completely agree, I don't think anyone can beat Junior other than Cain.

    Probably Junior. Overeem got tagged by Werdum plenty of times and gases too quickly.
     
  14. PAPERCLIP30

    PAPERCLIP30 Silver Belt

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    Isn't Cormier going to lhw?
     
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    pretty much what i was going to say... what ts said is the reciprocal of what would have been said three days ago by most people on sherdog.
     
  16. manji

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    Id like to see you test your theory on JDS
     
  17. Da Speeit

    Da Speeit Plutonium Belt Platinum Member

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    Um, did you watch the Barnett fight?
     
  18. RJ43

    RJ43 The Baddy

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    You have to pressure with a varied approach: takedowns and striking. Overeem will stalk, but it's a 1 dimensional attack that JDS deals with very well. It's that looming threat of a TD that messes with guys like JDS (and just about any other sprawl and brawl fighter). They wait for the TD with a wide stance, hands low, hoping to stuff and then light them up. This strategy crumbles when the wrestler can strike like Cain and GSP.

    JDS has commented on this and I think you'll seem him less concerned with stopping the TD, and more concerned with pushing his own offense. He'll rely on his jiu jitsu to bail him out of take downs.

    Basically I don't feel that JDS was exposed and will likely remain a top 3 HW. Few men, if any, can replicate what Cain does.
     
  19. vv44

    vv44 Black Belt

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    Problem with JDS is that he relies too much on the overhand right and the uppercut. Outside of that, he's just not doing a whole lot, especially not when someone's bringing the heat to him.
     

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