I mean I notice anytime anyone gains mass they immediately get accused of using steroids/PEDs For example lets take our favorite case from MMA- overeem to Ubereem. The guy goes from slim to superman over the course of 3-5yrs. He attributes it to massive intake of calories (horsemeat), but everyone accuses him of PEDs. The Rock is another example who over recent years has gotten swole also attributes it to diet and intense workouts. I don't know. I know a lot of people who eat a shit ton and workout like crazy but they either just get toned or ripped. I haven't seen any manbeast transformations. I mean obviously eat well and exercise anyone can say that, but what exactly are these guys doing that enables these massive gains if supposing it's actually being done naturally. Are there any examples of completely clean bodybuilders or fitness types that are built as well as Overeem in his prime? How did they achieve such massive gains naturally?