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How strong and how fast do you think ufc guys are ?

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  1. kflo

    kflo Steel Belt

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    No, I don’t regularly slander guys like fedor. Fedor is among the handful of greatest fighters of all time. Which I always say. Good day.
     
  2. LZD

    LZD Purple Belt

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    "Athleticism" is a subjective term. The athleticism required for mma is not the same as that required for NFL, or marathon running or swimming or tennis. They're the best at what they do.

    Bench, dash, vertical are important for NFL but irrelevant for most sports, including mma. Americans just love NFL
     
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  3. kflo

    kflo Steel Belt

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    Technique matters but size is a prerequisite as well. That alone differentiates many collegiate players from nfl players.
     
  4. BrianC18t

    BrianC18t Yellow Belt

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    In fairness I am a decent runner (started at age 30) and kill myself to do sub 20 5ks. Also, for my tiny frame always been relatively good at the bench as I try to not look like a total ecto.

    Keep pushing that pace, it is tough mentally. Real cardo "athletes" though shame me.... we are all not created equal for sure!
     
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    Natural Order Bad Mutha Shoopa

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    My mistake then.
     
  6. PabloChacon

    PabloChacon Conor McGregor's Coke Problem

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  7. Bjjpitbull8

    Bjjpitbull8 Red Belt

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    You’re entitled to your opinion. Rob Gronkowski’s outlandish claim, literally means nothing. The fact of the matter is he had a chance to play in HS, and was given an offer by the Browns a few years ago to try his hand again. He didn’t do it for a reason. Sorry, Gronkowski saying you’d be great doesn’t make you great. Bo Jackson was very good at both sports. He was not the best in the world at either. Not even close.
     
  8. kflo

    kflo Steel Belt

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    It wasn’t gronkowski that said he’d be great. Read the link.

    Are you seriously suggesting the best basketball player in the world and one of the most famous and wealthy not taking an offer to play football says anything about his ability to play football?
     
  9. Ironnik94

    Ironnik94 Celery Belt

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    Yeah those are decent times as well! Pretty cool that one is able to sustain a fast running pace even when getting older, while strength goes down faster (sadly).
    Yeah, killing oneself is hard to avoid at distances from 10k and below, especially 5k imho.
    Know what you mean with the bench, i kinda feel the same, although my main focus is on strength - and yep, we're not created equal in the terms mentioned, haha.
    When i was playing soccer i felt like often like lacking stamina, despite being one of those who've turned up to training pretty much always and drinking way less often than many of my teammates.. but that's just how it is i guess - i was relatively quick though (and i think my handspeed is decent as well).
    Regarding the strength of the lightweights: i wonder how someone with the strength of a powerlifter would do against a regular UFC lightweight (assuming they're halfways equal in skill) - i mean it's possible to deadlift 440+ lbs amd bench 330+ lbs for some people at 175lbs, although that person has to be very dedicated.
    A good friend of mine (21 years old) deadlifts 518lbs, benches 342 lbs and squats 496lbs while being roughly the same height as Conor McGregor - he's around 195lbs though, haha.
     
  10. Bjjpitbull8

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    I’m suggesting the same thing I’ve suggested the whole time. He would not be the best football player in the world. Done going back and forth with you. I read the article. It’s people making claims with no facts to back them.
     
  11. felmmando

    felmmando Black Belt

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    So they didn't lift weights?
     
  12. Ironnik94

    Ironnik94 Celery Belt

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    Lifting 600 pounds after three years and running 11-12s on 100m is f*cking insane though. Like, really, reaaally insane, at least if he's natural (heck, these numbers would be solid for someone on gear after only 3 years.)
     
  13. kflo

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    I would doubt they were bench pressing....
     
  14. Ironnik94

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    Robert Whittaker is a (very) well rounded athlete for sure. Maybe he'd have the cardio for soccer as well (assuming he'd below ~185 lbs fully hydrated).
    If only there was more numbers on how fast these athletes run etc. would be realy interesting to know!
     
  15. esdoornblad

    esdoornblad How soon is now?

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    To this awesome thread, I just wanted to add that like many of you, I am also very, very fit and have a deep intuitive understanding of every aspect of athleticism. Perhaps the most remarkable thing about me is that I almost never train -- and when I do train, I do only behind-the-neck pulldowns with more weight than I can handle.
     
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    Ironnik94 Celery Belt

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    I'm sorry, but i have a very hard time believing this. Benching 200lbs (at which age exactly?) while weighing 120lbs would make you a genetic freak in my eyes.
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    I mean, just look at those numbers, and this chart is meant for actual powerlifters.
     
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    Senior in high school. IDK where that chart came from, but basically any high schooler who spends a year lifting can bench 200. I also had friends who were 165-180 who could do 285++. I had one friend who was maybe 200 who could bench 350 in high school. And I went to a small school.

    I don't know who made this chart or what for. I'm kind of laughing at the idea of a 114 pound powerlifter? Are you sure this isn't for women or kids or something? Anyway, it looks like I would've been a grade 2 at the lift I was probably best at. Doesn't make me a genetic freak, trust me!
     
  18. Ironnik94

    Ironnik94 Celery Belt

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    I mean benching 200 after a year of training surely is doable, but how on earth while weighing a friggin' 120 pounds? I'm 6ft tall with small joints, but the last version of me that would've been able to be healthy at that weight was maybe 14 or 15 year old me.. all these other bench + bodyweight numbers seem (far) more reasonable to me. (No offense really!)
     
  19. Sosua

    Sosua Yeah nah

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    Less fast and less strong than roided up NFL players, but infinitely better at giving and receiving face punches.
     
  20. Mamou

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    Well size wasn't the issue in the Hardy/Lesnar stats.
     

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