Opinion How should societies (countries) be run? Should they devolve?

[WillyWarminski]

I'd love to see a 3000 page WarRoom thread on your ideas of society.

I have no particular "resolution" to my thoughts but I have some outline ideas.

I absolutely reject almost every idea of a "country" - having an entire population of a geographical area adhering to a single set of laws.

I despise nationalism and believe that allegiance to flags, anthems and uniforms are a blanket of blindness to real liberated thinking.

I am not completely shut-down of the idea of a nation. Small nations are closer in nature to what seems reasonable. Places with small populations, of high proportion of same beliefs and culture - of course it can work, but then it gets closer to what a commumity is.

I don't know if there is a magic number for what constitutes a successful, self governed community but I don't believe a country with a million+ people can ever work.

I'm also not very educated on politics so these are just the thoughts of a tired man.

 

[lsa]

I should rule the world.
You all know it.

 

[Yehudim]

Plenty of countries with millions of people are working. What, there’s a bunch of problems? What time was the world not a chaotic mess? The world was a lot worse when it was a collection of weak, small states.

I think break up of states should happen but mainly in post-imperial states where the countries purposely had shitty borders and governing systems.

 

[Natural Order]

5 year long, global kumite tournament. Winner becomes Supreme Leader of Earth.

 

[Spam On Rye]

Symphonia.

 

[WillyWarminski]

Plenty of countries with millions of people are working. What, there’s a bunch of problems? What time was the world not a chaotic mess? The world was a lot worse when it was a collection of weak, small states.

I'm assuming you are talking about military when you say "weak"?

 

[Yehudim]

I'm assuming you are talking about military when you say "weak"?

One of many aspects. Everything you take for granted, such as a court system, water & sewer services, law enforcement, fire-rescue services, effective taxation and a complex bureaucracy that can fund & administer all of these things and more.

 

[WillyWarminski]

One of many aspects. Everything you take for granted, such as a court system, water & sewer services, law enforcement, fire-rescue services, effective taxation and a complex bureaucracy that can fund & administer all of these things and more.

I agree that a larger country is more likely to have a powerful army but at least some of the remainder is done very well on some small scale

 

[UberHere]

Premise is flawed. The dominant geographic culture is going to determine how society is run unless the elites are powerful enough to shape it another way.

 

[Stoic1]

Wakanda seems nice.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

I'd love to see a 3000 page WarRoom thread on your ideas of society.

I have no particular "resolution" to my thoughts but I have some outline ideas.

I absolutely reject almost every idea of a "country" - having an entire population of a geographical area adhering to a single set of laws.

- Thats how animal and even insects work too.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I think break up of states should happen but mainly in post-imperial states where the countries purposely had shitty borders and governing systems.

Even in many of those cases I think you can resolve a lot of those issues with federalism. Not every ethnic minority across the globe needs an airforce and a seat at the UN, sometimes an autonomous territory where they can preserve their prerogatives in regards to things like language rights is sufficient.

Supposedly during the Helsinki peace talks over the Aceh insurgency in Indonesia the Acehnese delegation was told about the autonomous region of Aland in Finland and were quite taken by the idea. I think other conflicts can be solved that way.

 

[THEfightsAREfixed]

in theory it should be a true political process but in practical reality its a dirty mess

 

[Sinister]

Country is divided into corporate territories with upper-managers all hand-picked by Central CEO. Education is only accessible for kids from affluent families, the rest mine the minerals and pick the food. Every territory is essentially a fiefdom with the Executive receiving all profits and funneling them upward to the CEO class, because the proletariat is too retarded to do anything with money, or to be trusted with the rignt to vote. Curfews are heavily enforced to ensure the working class makes it to their jobs the next morning, homeless are imprisoned and enslaved at the cost of the proletariat while the work they do profits the CEO class as well.

 

[Sinister]

^Guess.Curtis Yarvin, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk's version of society were enough to grind this thread to a total stop. Lol

And to think I posted that as a joke.

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

 

[Andy Capp]

in theory it should be a true political process but in practical reality its a dirty mess

Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[Versez]

I should rule the world.
You all know it.

If it would happen.

Society would collapse, thanks god you're delusional.

 

[TheMoa]

^Guess.Curtis Yarvin, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk's version of society were enough to grind this thread to a total stop. Lol

And to think I posted that as a joke.

a joke? I thought you were describing the current global system with an extra step (curfew, homelessness and vote)