How severe of an injury before you quit bjj for good?

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  1. machomang

    machomang Blue Belt

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    Got a classmate who had severe concussions from snowboarding feeling some serious consequences now just stopped training based on doctors advice. Not so much because he gets head injuries during bjj, but that according to his doctors, adrenaline is the worse thing for your brain.

    As for me, I have some bad disc degeneration and bad curvature in my spine and neck. I don't want to quit training, but the thought is now crossing my mind.

    What about you guys? How bad does it have to get before you hang your gi up for good?
     
  2. GottaGoPee

    GottaGoPee White Belt

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    Decapitation from a cross collar choke. Then I might consider it. Maybe.
     
  3. JLBN

    JLBN Blue Belt

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    My buddy who was ranked 2nd in the world in his weight class at brown belt had to quit due to chronic arthritis in his back.

    He literally doesn't know what to do with himself now.
     
  4. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    That is sad.

    Can he just start teaching instead?

    I am sure his instructor could promote him to BB as he is second best brown in the world.

    Teaching BJJ does not take that much impact on the back.
     
  5. Diode

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    if my quality of life is to suffer permanently, it's time to hang it up. there's too much beauty in this life and far too much to do in the world to risk losing it all for a hobby.
     
  6. Mr Jay

    Mr Jay Brown Belt

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    How old is he?

    This may be a stupid question, but has he seen a spine clinic? Gotten an MRI, things like that? If he's young enough he could consider surgery.
     
  7. GFG

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    Man i've been injured from BJJ/muay thai so many times it's not even funny, and i haven't quite yet but it was pretty close one time 10 years ago as some chronic back pain took me away from training for at least 2 years, but i'm stubborn like that and came back.

    just last november i got a bad neck crank that pinched the nerve root in my neck to the point that my grip strength and bicep strength in my left arm dropped to 1/5 of my right side but i just took a week off before getting back into the grove, other then everyone rag dolling my weak arm while rolling i was fine. This year an Achilles tendon rupture from skatboarding/muay thai kept me off the mats for 4 weeks (i was rolling in a home made padded brace), and this last big one was tearing off my pec (bench press/ kimura ) and had to get surgery to get it reattached just started rolling again last friday on the 3 month mark (but i'm taking it light now).

    i'm addicted to jitz and muay thai and can't even think of what i would do with myself if i lost those little hobbies. So i don't see myself stopping anytime soon however i do plan on training smarter from now on, as im 35 not 15 anymore. my issue is i hate stretching, warming up and now it's about time i start. plus when i roll or spar from now on i'm never gonna go harder then 50%, i'm going to shelf my physical attributes, and just focus on the technique and working different strategies. however this year did make me reevaluate how i'm going to continue training.

    Mike @ Gorilla
     
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  8. GFG

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    thank sucks bud i had 2 herniated discs back when i was 24 years old and i tried to train threw it but after 6 months i tapped out, i was in such chronic pain for 2 years that actually training was the last thing on my mind back then. I just slowly sneaked back into doing some stand-up and eventually back into rolling, im pain free now but i just roll accordingly i avoid getting stacked like like its case of herpes and so far so good on that front.

    mike @ Gorilla
     
  9. Balto

    Balto Silver Belt

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    Several guys I knew hung up the gi when the doctor told them that if they kept training, they were going to end up in a wheelchair.

    So that seems to be a common turning point.
     
  10. Gambledub

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    I imagine I will quit the day I contract aids from needles I came in to contact with, while berimbolo'ing two armed muggers in a street fight.
     
  11. winterbike

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    Yup, that'd be one for me. Anything serious back/neck related and I'm out. I love BJJ, but there's too much stuff out there to do.
     
  12. Fatman1

    Fatman1 Yellow Belt

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    I understand the obsession people have with BJJ, as I had it, but it really is short sighted.

    I used to do kickboxing before BJJ, and it was my life. I spent as much time as possible training, and when I wasn't I'd be reading about it, watching videos, or talking about it. I did it for about 15 years in total.

    Then I started having a clicking in my hip that caused high kicks to be very painful. I struggled for a couple of years with it. Took short breaks and missed the sport like hell. Eventually, I started BJJ alongside it and loved that too. So I quit kickboxing as I just couldn't do the techniques anymore.

    At first, I felt lost. But BJJ proved a nice distraction. Then I got obsessed with BJJ. I was in university at the time, so I could train twice or three times a day. I trained a lot, competed a lot, and spent all my free time thinking about it. Just as many people describe their own feelings towards BJJ on this forum.

    My hip injury got worse though, and then my knees started to get hurt. Mostly due to the pressure on the hips when someone is passing your guard, and being on my knees when passing theirs... but also just the general scrambles and having people on top of you that goes with the sport. It got so bad that I was unable to walk some days, others I could not go up or down stairs. Constant pain, etc.

    There comes a time when you think, "If I carry on, and seriously hurt myself, am I going to have a limp for the rest of my life? Will I be able to be active with my children, chase after them at the park, play soccer with them, etc? How will I feel aged 70?".

    I went to numerous doctors and specialists, and was told my problem could not be fixed by surgery or rehabilitation. It was a permanent injury. I had been taken small breaks from BJJ whenever the injuries flared up... and felt lost... and those breaks just became longer and longer.

    It's been 7 or 8 years now since I did BJJ, and I don't miss it. I missed it at first, but haven't for a long time. Life goes on, and there is more to life than BJJ. I have other interests and things going on in my life that provide the same benefits that BJJ did (except for self-defence training). Despite the username, I keep fit, I compete, I socialise, I am intellectually stimulated.

    When people here talk about never quitting until their are literally unable to do it physically, because they love it so much they cannot imagine life without it... I just think they are short sighted. Life is ok without BJJ.

    My friend also quit. He has an arm injury that occurred due to a meathead white belt student cranking a kimura. He's resentful because the instructor knew the guy was a loose cannon but let him train anyway. My friend is now in constant pain and discomfort, and had to quit because his career involves the use of his arms. Too bad. But earning a living is more important that doing BJJ.
     
  13. Thrawn33

    Thrawn33 JUST BLEED Belt

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    This thread is morbid as fuck...

    3 weeks back into Judo after a 2 year injury layoff sends....
     
  14. Knock Out Ned

    Knock Out Ned el mero mero

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    Every time I've hurt myself the doctor has told me to quit.

    Even when I went to get my ear drained. I just do it myself now.

    The last time I was seriously injured is when I tore my MCL. That's the last time I got the, "You should quit" lecture.

    I realize that a concussion is very, very serious (more serious than my injuries). I hope your friend turns out all right and can still enjoy his hobby.
     
  15. GKY

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    If my injuries start to seriously affect the rest of my life it's over. I love grappling, but I love life more.
     
  16. fizbo

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    I'm going to try to quit right before I'm severely injured, rather than right after.
     
  17. JohnSouth

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    Perhaps people should ask themselves why they are getting injured and how important is it to "win" this or that.

    I was getting injured a lot when I first started then one day I just said "no more, I will not get hurt" and I have not been hurt since.

    I am very aware of what position I'm in and if I feel something bad happening I stop. I still roll hard but I'm careful.

    The other day some guy was going for an arm bar and had my thumb isolated, I tapped before he could even go for the arm bar. I'm not letting him break my thumb so I can hold out 5 more seconds.

    The people who roll fast and reckless with bad technique get hurt every time and those will be the guys that hurt you. You have to learn to protect yourself on the mat as well as the street.

    It might be better than quitting altogether.
     
  18. JLBN

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    He is 36. He has just had a full year off doing nothing, then physio.

    He has had a herniated disc and has a degenerative back problem that surgery hasn't fixed.

    He is literally broken and the doctors can't fix him.
     
  19. immanurse

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  20. Codger

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    Yeah I agree with this. There can be too much macho BS with some people in BJJ who buy into the "fight or die" mentality. There are people I don't want to roll with because they are too aggressive and strong with it. I know I can get injured if I don't tap the instant they're straightening my arm or whatever. They tend to be the MMA guys. With them I try to play a slow, gentler game right from the start so they get the idea that if they go 100% then, fine, they're gonna dominate me but get little out of it. I'll just defend with little effort to break free and ride it out. No way am I getting into a dogfight with some MMA dude who is like 15 years younger than me and all weight-trained to the max and risk getting yet another joint injury.

    Likewise I tone my game down for people who are smaller, weaker or much lower grades than me. I never understand watching people who are clearly way better than the new guy, smashing him and getting like 10 subs out of a roll.
     

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