How Reebok is like a functional anti-trust violation...

[dissufc]

...to the realm of sponsorship.

Sponsorship should be a free market economy where fighters and potential sponsors apply basic economics/popularity Q values to determine true worth. UFC has allowed Reebok to subjectively apply their own financial default values with the quasi-complicit support of zuffa.... but not really, ufc doesn't give a shit because it's MANDATORY... and that's where the benefits of capitalism has been thwarted by the Furtitties. All fighters need to create a union... like NOW... to get a new collective bargaining agreement and stop this nonsense. Adidas owns reebok. Yes, they could afford to pay much more.

No fighter can ever complain about sponsor pay if it's their responsibility or conversely if it's a 100X more than if it was a default payout from reebok. More sponsorship dough is needed especially by the majority of fighters... if they hustle, they can achieve more than what the ufc would pay. It gives a peace fo mind to encourage staying on the path even if you get peanuts for future physical/mental ailments. Ask any former nfl player or boxer except the punter


It's HELLA TIME FOR A UNION. BY BOYCOTTING THE UFC UNTIL IT HAPPENS. CONOR OUGHT TO LEAD THE CHARGE WITH ALL THE CHAMPIONS.

*sorry for the caps but this message is really for all the mgrs and fighters who can't read fine print...lol

 

[straight6]

In b4 shills rush in to bash TS and trash anything union related.

 

[dissufc]

In b4 shills rush in to bash TS and trash anything union related.

Sorry to botha you old chap...but WTF DOES TS STAND FOR?

 

[SocraticMethod]

Who would be in such a union?

How would you propose getting Conor and the other guys who are currently making the most money to risk their places by supporting unionization?

 

[straight6]

Sorry to botha you old chap...but WTF DOES TS STAND FOR?

thread starter

 

[Which Doctor]

Who would be in such a union?

How would you propose getting Conor and the other guys who are currently making the most money to risk their places by supporting unionization?

 

[dissufc]

Who would be in such a union?

How would you propose getting Conor and the other guys who are currently making the most money to risk their places by supporting unionization?

...they are NOT making the most money...in sponsorship, which is my whole point. Conor is losing THE most in sponsorship dollars. Easily $500K per fight minimum. A union is desperately needed. Anyone who opposes this opinion ought to be a considered a potential ufc employee or friend of. ufc is worth over $5BN... and there's no union...lolol

 

[MisdemeanorMMA]

Its so hard to get big bucks in mma. To go on strike and not be able to fight for money would tank most fighters financially. During the strike most fighter's would have this get a 9-5 to support themselves and family. Like ts said it would take all the champions and all the big names to achieve a union. The news of all the champs going on strike would be huge in the media. Everyone knows about Ufc but I doubt most people who are not fans know or care they don't have a union or how much they get paid.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

Sorry to botha you old chap...but WTF DOES TS STAND FOR?

Transsexual

 

[Tuf_guy]

Sorry to botha you old chap...but WTF DOES TS STAND FOR?

TS = Transexual. That's what we call original post authors. It's a term of respect here. Sherdog is a very alternative-minded community.

thread starter

^ Fuckin' lies! Who are you gonna trust, TS? This guy you never met who's name is "straight", or me - your new online Tae Kwon Do instructor?


BTW, I stopped at Furtitties. LOL. You had me at antitrust but that was a capper. You're preaching to the choir. Do move into a ready stance for the incoming shills though.

 

[skysolo]

...to the realm of sponsorship.

Sponsorship should be a free market economy where fighters and potential sponsors apply basic economics/popularity Q values to determine true worth. UFC has allowed Reebok to subjectively apply their own financial default values with the quasi-complicit support of zuffa.... but not really, ufc doesn't give a shit because it's MANDATORY... and that's where the benefits of capitalism has been thwarted by the Furtitties. All fighters need to create a union... like NOW... to get a new collective bargaining agreement and stop this nonsense. Adidas owns reebok. Yes, they could afford to pay much more.

No fighter can ever complain about sponsor pay if it's their responsibility or conversely if it's a 100X more than if it was a default payout from reebok. More sponsorship dough is needed especially by the majority of fighters... if they hustle, they can achieve more than what the ufc would pay. It gives a peace fo mind to encourage staying on the path even if you get peanuts for future physical/mental ailments. Ask any former nfl player or boxer except the punter


It's HELLA TIME FOR A UNION. BY BOYCOTTING THE UFC UNTIL IT HAPPENS. CONOR OUGHT TO LEAD THE CHARGE WITH ALL THE CHAMPIONS.

*sorry for the caps but this message is really for all the mgrs and fighters who can't read fine print...lol

You (and the rest of us) need to stop the unionization stuff. It's up to the fighters. If they don't want to and those around them don't want to,, then there is nothing you can do.

 

[skysolo]

Old school Stallone!


Drinkenstein

 

[MMA]

TS sounds well-versed in antitrust law -- we should listen to him

 

[K1HerosNakamura]

...to the realm of sponsorship.

Sponsorship should be a free market economy where fighters and potential sponsors apply basic economics/popularity Q values to determine true worth. UFC has allowed Reebok to subjectively apply their own financial default values with the quasi-complicit support of zuffa.... but not really, ufc doesn't give a shit because it's MANDATORY... and that's where the benefits of capitalism has been thwarted by the Furtitties. All fighters need to create a union... like NOW... to get a new collective bargaining agreement and stop this nonsense. Adidas owns reebok. Yes, they could afford to pay much more.

No fighter can ever complain about sponsor pay if it's their responsibility or conversely if it's a 100X more than if it was a default payout from reebok. More sponsorship dough is needed especially by the majority of fighters... if they hustle, they can achieve more than what the ufc would pay. It gives a peace fo mind to encourage staying on the path even if you get peanuts for future physical/mental ailments. Ask any former nfl player or boxer except the punter


It's HELLA TIME FOR A UNION. BY BOYCOTTING THE UFC UNTIL IT HAPPENS. CONOR OUGHT TO LEAD THE CHARGE WITH ALL THE CHAMPIONS.

*sorry for the caps but this message is really for all the mgrs and fighters who can't read fine print...lol

So you want the UFC to be run more like a free market economy....by being unionized. WTF man

 

[K1HerosNakamura]

...they are NOT making the most money...in sponsorship, which is my whole point. Conor is losing THE most in sponsorship dollars. Easily $500K per fight minimum. A union is desperately needed. Anyone who opposes this opinion ought to be a considered a potential ufc employee or friend of. ufc is worth over $5BN... and there's no union...lolol

You dum dum. Think about how hard it is for Dana and the Fertitas to put on a profitable show as is with fighters pulling out and getting popped for PEDs left and right. Do you think what they need right now is to have to enter a union negotiation for each change of schedule? Do you think that the interference in matchmaking couldn't have disastrous results on the viewership and ultimately revenues of the sport? Unions would protect Tim Sylvias, and Jon Fitches. They would want the UFC run like an amateur sport with transparent rankings like amateur wrestling. The viewership rates would probably be similar as unionized safe strategies employed by unmotivated fighters drive away fans.

 

[thobra]

Fuck Unions. They would only damage the business, like they always do. It could kill the UFC, and we don't want that.

If the fighters are not happy, they can make a collective move to Bellator.

 

[Andy Anderson]

Fuck the UFC

 

[HIMBOB]

...to the realm of sponsorship.

Sponsorship should be a free market economy where fighters and potential sponsors apply basic economics/popularity Q values to determine true worth. UFC has allowed Reebok to subjectively apply their own financial default values with the quasi-complicit support of zuffa.... but not really, ufc doesn't give a shit because it's MANDATORY... and that's where the benefits of capitalism has been thwarted by the Furtitties. All fighters need to create a union... like NOW... to get a new collective bargaining agreement and stop this nonsense. Adidas owns reebok. Yes, they could afford to pay much more.

No fighter can ever complain about sponsor pay if it's their responsibility or conversely if it's a 100X more than if it was a default payout from reebok. More sponsorship dough is needed especially by the majority of fighters... if they hustle, they can achieve more than what the ufc would pay. It gives a peace fo mind to encourage staying on the path even if you get peanuts for future physical/mental ailments. Ask any former nfl player or boxer except the punter


It's HELLA TIME FOR A UNION. BY BOYCOTTING THE UFC UNTIL IT HAPPENS. CONOR OUGHT TO LEAD THE CHARGE WITH ALL THE CHAMPIONS.

*sorry for the caps but this message is really for all the mgrs and fighters who can't read fine print...lol

I feel its better to declare a reebok boycott.

 

[HIMBOB]

You dum dum. Think about how hard it is for Dana and the Fertitas to put on a profitable show as is with fighters pulling out and getting popped for PEDs left and right. Do you think what they need right now is to have to enter a union negotiation for each change of schedule? Do you think that the interference in matchmaking couldn't have disastrous results on the viewership and ultimately revenues of the sport? Unions would protect Tim Sylvias, and Jon Fitches. They would want the UFC run like an amateur sport with transparent rankings like amateur wrestling. The viewership rates would probably be similar as unionized safe strategies employed by unmotivated fighters drive away fans.

You dum dum. Think about how hard it is for Dana and the Fertitas to put on a profitable show as is with fighters pulling out and getting popped for PEDs left and right. Do you think what they need right now is to have to enter a union negotiation for each change of schedule? Do you think that the interference in matchmaking couldn't have disastrous results on the viewership and ultimately revenues of the sport? Unions would protect Tim Sylvias, and Jon Fitches. They would want the UFC run like an amateur sport with transparent rankings like amateur wrestling. The viewership rates would probably be similar as unionized safe strategies employed by unmotivated fighters drive away fans.

Fun facts.

The American union movement was at its strongest in 1950.

The highest American gdp growth was in q1 1950.

 

[Prutfis]

In b4 shills rush in to bash TS and trash anything union related.

Hard to talk unions with many americans since that senile moron Reagan effectively cut their nuts of. Many of them have no clue what it is like to have working unions that actually help provide good working conditions and wages. That and many americans "every man for himself, fuck the little guy as long as i am above minimum wage" attitude.