How much sense does this make? For the pros...MM..KK and others.

[Ziltoid]

The original thread was started here...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=749321


Someone suggested to post the DIET part here to see what others think about it.

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DIET
VERY simple. Very important that you try to get as
close to 500g of protein per day. Easiest way to do
that is to have a whey protein shake in water with
every meal. Fats and carbs don't matter. Calories
don't count, macro nutrients (protein, fat, carb) do.
If you get to add fat on, just cut out the fats and
keep your carbs bellow 300g/day. That's all it is!
Very simple, but hard to stick to, so not many people
get results. On gear, the more protein you eat, the
more you grow. Is as simple as that. Gear maximises
protein synthesis.

 

[T_Money_]

maybe its a government conspiracy to shut down the kidneys of anyone stupid enough to follow it??? That's my only guess.

 

[Valgarv]

First link on google...
http://www.healthcalculators.org/calculators/protein.asp

Most important thing is that intake depends on current body mass. There are no hard numbers that fit everyone. You can find many formulas that attempt to provide optimal guidance. It's all subjective and I'll let you do the research.

 

[mobeck]

What does this mean?: "If you get to add fat on, just cut out the fats"

 

[T_Money_]

What does this mean?: "If you get to add fat on, just cut out the fats"

Pretty sure it means that if you start gaining adipose tissue from eating 500g of protein a day plus whatever the hell amount of fat and carbs you feel like (no matter your bodyweight and only working 3x a week) then you should eliminate all dietary fat and keep eating 500g protein a day. Great advice, eh.

 

[erco]

I told you before and I'll tell you again, the diet portion is garbage, just like the rest of the article. It's ALL bullshit advice.

 

[Ziltoid]

^^I agree...Im not arguing about it. Im just looking for more of an answer on why is it such garbage. I dont quite understand the science hes putting behind it. know what i mean?

 

[T_Money_]

the science is the same stupid science that the huge ass bodybuilder who was blending up frozen chicken and eggs and drinking it used. Protein is good for muscles so huge amounts of protein must be really, really good for muscles. In other words, there is no science, thats the whole fucking point. If your friend is really stupid enough to do this even after being challenged as to how retarded it is, you should probably consider finding a new friend (especially since I'm guessing he's a little guy, 500g of protein a day and little to no fat will put him in the hospital anyways).

 

[zop]

I c 500 g of protein per day. Does that mean if I weigh 300 lbs and if another guy weigh's 100 lbs we both should be eating 500 g of protein per day?

 

[stylesbjj**]

IA on excessive protein:

3 grams per is definately excessive for most anyone, yet SOME do it. Most do just fine on 1.5-2 grams per lb of bodyweight, and as BW goes up, so must protein intake.


IA

http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6004&page=2

 

[Ziltoid]

the science is the same stupid science that the huge ass bodybuilder who was blending up frozen chicken and eggs and drinking it used. Protein is good for muscles so huge amounts of protein must be really, really good for muscles. In other words, there is no science, thats the whole fucking point. If your friend is really stupid enough to do this even after being challenged as to how retarded it is, you should probably consider finding a new friend (especially since I'm guessing he's a little guy, 500g of protein a day and little to no fat will put him in the hospital anyways).

QFT. I agree 100%. Thanks for the input guys. Im just so used to listening to the right info here that when I read some shit like that...I am just baffled.

 

[joshetc]

500g of protein/day is hell on your kidneys. Some doctors are worried about people with a history of kidney problems eating over 150g a day. To be honest, I'd be scared to eat more than 300g of protein a day for longer than a few days..

 

[mechanikjoe]

That is probably the stupidest thing I've ever. No one will EVER use that much protein, and that will absolutely destroy your kidneys. lol. Eating infinite amounts of protein does not make you grow infinitely, your body has a certain amount of protein that it can, and will, use, and the rest will be converted to energy and stored (as fat).

 

[mobeck]

Pretty sure it means that if you start gaining adipose tissue from eating 500g of protein a day plus whatever the hell amount of fat and carbs you feel like (no matter your bodyweight and only working 3x a week) then you should eliminate all dietary fat and keep eating 500g protein a day. Great advice, eh.

Wow. Anyone who describes "gaining body fat" by saying "if you get to add fat on" should not be listened to. They should, in fact, be taken out back and beaten with a rubber hose.

 

[mechanikjoe]

IA on excessive protein:



http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6004&page=2

The RDI (recommended daily intake) for protein is definently NOT 1.6-2.0 grams of protein per bodyweight. They recommend .8 g/kg bodyweight for the average person, and 1.6-2.2 g/kg for athletes (specifically strength training athletes). 2 grams per pound of body weight is little more than 4 g/kg bodyweight, which is waaaay to excessive. People around here sure go crazy on the protein.

 

[T_Money_]

The RDI (recommended daily intake) for protein is definently NOT 1.6-2.0 grams of protein per bodyweight. They recommend .8 g/kg bodyweight for the average person, and 1.6-2.2 g/kg for athletes (specifically strength training athletes). 2 grams per pound of body weight is little more than 4 g/kg bodyweight, which is waaaay to excessive. People around here sure go crazy on the protein.

If you're going to start bringing up our dumbass govt.'s nutritional advice, than at least know what it means. RDI is not the UL. upper limit is what our government has determined to be the top and anything over is excessive.