How much of boxing is enough to be able to whoop everyone's butt?

[Alex]

I really have a huge amount of confidence to kick butt after only two months in BJJ and several years of Judo. But what bothers is me is if I get in a situation where it's a bad idea to take the fight to the ground.
Lately I was wondering if I should start training boxing. But, what bothers me is getting my nose broken (I had an unpleasant surgery fixing my nose, and I don't want to go through it again).
So, my question is:
1. Should I really worry about my nose?
2. How much years/months does it take to be able to outbox 99% of the population?
BTW, I'm very athletic and always been good at sports, so I guess I learn stuff faster than an average person.

 

[clashnat]

I really have a huge amount of confidence to kick butt after only two months in BJJ and several years of Judo. But what bothers is me is if I get in a situation where it's a bad idea to take the fight to the ground.
Lately I was wondering if I should start training boxing. But, what bothers me is getting my nose broken (I had an unpleasant surgery fixing my nose, and I don't want to go through it again).
So, my question is:
1. Should I really worry about my nose?
2. How much years/months does it take to be able to outbox 99% of the population?
BTW, I'm very athletic and always been good at sports, so I guess I learn stuff faster than an average person.

... and another shady thread. I suspect it's the same guy who posted other troll threads, I just posted the links right here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f11/help-me-decide-what-do-3116095/

 

[StopDucking]

You've done judo for sereval years and still don't know a good throw is enough to end a fight without you having to go to the ground?

 

[Alex]

You've done judo for sereval years and still don't know a good throw is enough to end a fight without you having to go to the ground?

It's not that easy, especially in a stressful situation, to throw somebody on the floor without dragging yourself to the ground with him. I've been using judo in fights, but what happens is usually I end up on the ground too. Plus, you can't finish a fight with a single takedown.

 

[Alex]

... and another shady thread. I suspect it's the same guy who posted other troll threads, I just posted the links right here: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f11/help-me-decide-what-do-3116095/

Before assuming some BS about me, please take a look at my other messages at the forum and then decide if I am a troll.

 

[Madmick]

2 whole months of BJJ folks. Ready to take on JJ Watt.

 

[Alex]

2 whole months of BJJ folks. Ready to take on JJ Watt.

An average person is not JJ Watt.
If a person never trained wrestling or judo, I can take them down with ease. Even guys around 260 lbs, And I've done that.
BJJ gave me the tools to mount an average person with no problem.
So yeah, I feel like I can take on most of the guys who are not athletes.
What's your problem?

 

[biscuitsbrah]

1. Should I really worry about my nose?
2. How much years/months does it take to be able to outbox 99% of the population?

1. Who nose?
2. Who cares?




Seriously doe, why dont you just try it and stop making shitty threads. We are not imprezzed by your per frum ants

 

[Alex]

1. Who nose?
2. Who cares?




Seriously doe, why dont you just try it and stop making shitty threads. We are not imprezzed by your per frum ants

Why? because as I said, I'm afraid to break my nose. And, I want to know if it's worth my time. I've tried boxing before, for one month. I didn't get the feeling I learned something from that. I want to know if one year of boxing will change my standup drastically, or will I be more or less the same level as I am now (which is none)?

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Why? because as I said, I'm afraid to break my nose. And, I want to know if it's worth my time. I've tried boxing before, for one month. I didn't get the feeling I learned something from that. I want to know if one year of boxing will change my standup drastically, or will I be more or less the same level as I am now (which is none)?

What in the world? Well to answer your question the learning curve is steeper for standup but once you get over the hump its a lot easier... Reason being that being punched in the face takes some time getting used to.

We will never know if its "worth your time" thats up to you to try and decide.

 

[Alex]

What in the world? Well to answer your question the learning curve is steeper for standup but once you get over the hump its a lot easier... Reason being that being punched in the face takes some time getting used to.

We will never know if its "worth your time" thats up to you to try and decide.

Thanks.
I'll rephrase my questions:
1. How often do you get hit on the nose? What can be done to prevent it?
2. How long did it take you to get to the point you feel you would KO easily the previous version of yourself?

 

[clashnat]

Thanks.
I'll rephrase my questions:
1. How often do you get hit on the nose? What can be done to prevent it?
2. How long did it take you to get to the point you feel you would KO easily the previous version of yourself?

Have you ever considered trying out stand up comedy?

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Thanks.
I'll rephrase my questions:
1. How often do you get hit on the nose? What can be done to prevent it?
2. How long did it take you to get to the point you feel you would KO easily the previous version of yourself?

1. Not very often. My nose isnt that big though. Plus we spar pretty light until about 4 weeks out from a fight. There is headgear that you can purchase that has a nose-bar. It may effect your vision a little bit but is totally worth it if you have nose injuries.

Also im going to add that boxing gyms have a different culture than MMA/kickboxing gyms. Not only are they very refined in the art of punching the face, but they probably spar a lot harder as well.

2. Well im 2 years in and I would say 2 years. You are focusing on the end result too much though, and instead of worrying about how much time it will take or whatever you are worried about, you could be spending that time doing and living it.

I will say however you do need a fight or 2 or 3 to be able to "easily" TKO yourself. Unless you started out completely unathletic and kind of wimpy.

 

[Alex]

1. Not very often. My nose isnt that big though. Plus we spar pretty light until about 4 weeks out from a fight. There is headgear that you can purchase that has a nose-bar. It may effect your vision a little bit but is totally worth it if you have nose injuries.

Also im going to add that boxing gyms have a different culture than MMA/kickboxing gyms. Not only are they very refined in the art of punching the face, but they probably spar a lot harder as well.

2. Well im 2 years in and I would say 2 years. You are focusing on the end result too much though, and instead of worrying about how much time it will take or whatever you are worried about, you could be spending that time doing and living it.

I will say however you do need a fight or 2 or 3 to be able to "easily" TKO yourself. Unless you started out completely unathletic and kind of wimpy.

Thank you very much for giving me a detailed answer.

By 2, 3 fights you mean street fights or sparring at the gym?

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Thank you very much for giving me a detailed answer.

By 2, 3 fights you mean street fights or sparring at the gym?

Talking about smokers or just sanctioned fights. You can be the best in the world looking like a world beater in a comfortable setting in the gym but when you fight its a lot different.

Boxers may or may not treat certain sparring sessions like real fights though, so that could definitely add to the experience factor.

 

[Hard To Tell]

Depends, but 6 months will usually give you a decent enough edge over your regular Joe. But if you are a weak, uncoordinated, unathletic wimp with no fighting abilty or fighting heart what so ever, then you will always be a weak, uncoordinated, unathletic wimp with no fighting abilty or fighting heart what so ever.

Sure, you will improve with training but you will never make a fighter and on the streets their will be untrained guys who will still beat you up simply by virtue of having some natural athletic ability, aggression, toughness and willingness to fight hard. But if you are like this you probably wont make it past your first sparring session.

 

[aries]

I really have a huge amount of confidence to kick butt after only two months in BJJ and several years of Judo. But what bothers is me is if I get in a situation where it's a bad idea to take the fight to the ground.
Lately I was wondering if I should start training boxing. But, what bothers me is getting my nose broken (I had an unpleasant surgery fixing my nose, and I don't want to go through it again).
So, my question is:
1. Should I really worry about my nose?
2. How much years/months does it take to be able to outbox 99% of the population?
BTW, I'm very athletic and always been good at sports, so I guess I learn stuff faster than an average person.

I reckon a year, have a couple of bouts and you'll be able to best most untrained people if you are athletically gifted as you say you are. Imho you need to have some actual bouts to test yourself and to show you where you need to be so you can have that laser beam focus in training that only having a fight can give you.

 

[Kenjamito]

I'd say if getting hit in the nose is a real concern, I would stay the hell away from any competitive boxing setting. Getting hit in the nose is definitely on the list of boxing consequences, lol.

It's also weird to measure success in terms of being able to KO the previous version of yourself...?

 

[Hard To Tell]

It's also weird to measure success in terms of being able to KO the previous version of yourself...?

It is lol. You judge your boxing ability on how well you do against other trained boxers, not if you can beat up untrained guys off the street or the previous version of yourself:icon_lol:

 

[Alex]

Thanks for the answers guys.

It is lol. You judge your boxing ability on how well you do against other trained boxers, not if you can beat up untrained guys off the street or the previous version of yourself:icon_lol:

Well, I want to do boxing to be able to defend myself against an average person while staying on my feet.