How many top 10 wins Khabib and Conor each have?

Khabib

RDA (not even sure he was a top 10 at that time)
Barboza
Johnson probably was top 10, not anymore.

Conor
Aldo
Mendes
Eddie
were top 10 for sure.

Poirier & Max weren't top 10 when he fought then.
But looking at it now, it's pretty impressive.

Poirer was TOP 5, and Sivir was top 10 as well. Nate was also top 5. Conor has beaten twice as many top ranked fighters as Khabib, half of which have been at a higher weight class while Khabib misses weight 30% of the time!
 
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Not really.... that's an 80% win rate. Brock's is just over 50%.

Plus, how can you compare a heath herring or min soo Kim to a Dustin Poirier or max Holloway... who wasn't even ranked at the time? I mean despite not being ranked and not being anywhere near the champion he is today, you can't tell me those wins are more impressive than the max win.

Speaks to the flawed way you're comparing wins
Max Holloway was 3-2 in the UFC before he fought Conor. Those wins being Leonard Garcia, Dustin Lawerence, and Pat Schilling. He lost to Dennis Bermudez.
He isn't the same fighter he is today.

This is why in-division rankings matter. Otherwise you can throw out named guys on a resume despite them not even being good at that time frame.
 
Max Holloway was 3-2 in the UFC before he fought Conor. Those wins being Leonard Garcia, Dustin Lawerence, and Pat Schilling. He lost to Dennis Bermudez.
He isn't the same fighter he is today.

This is why in-division rankings matter. Otherwise you can throw out named guys on a resume despite them not even being good at that time frame.

He arguably beat Dennis Bermudez who was a very impressive up and coming fighter in his own right that soon landed in the top 5. Max Holloway was fucking good, even then. Of course he's improved since only starting MMA a few years back. Conor has also improved since starting MMA a few years back. Both were young fighters that improved, but Conor still dominated him everywhere with one knee. Deal with it.
 
Brock never fought unranked opponents, Conor has. It makes a difference. Khabib is currently 26-0... 16 of those wins are literally irrelevant though.
If you take away Conor's unranked victories his record is 4-1. Kind of similar to Brock's record, don't you think?

This guy includes Conor's loss to Nate among his new arbitrarily cherry-picked criteria of "ranked record" WHEN im pretty sure Nate was UNRANKED at both LW and WW the first time they fought, yet EXCLUDES Conor's win over Nate in the rematch when Nate was top 5 at LW. Even if Nate was ranked during the first fight you can't selectively exclude the rematch

Also, none of Brock's opponents compare to Conor's opponents. HW is weak as shit.

Dustin Poirier was 16-3 when Conor beat him

Mendes was 17-2 when Conor beat him

Aldo was 25-1 when Conor beat him

Alvarez was 28-4 when Conor beat him


Conor's four top 5 ranked opponents had a combined 10 losses with a combined record of 83-10



Meanwhile when it comes to Bock's MUCH inferior 4 "top 10 wins"


Heath Herring was 28-13 when Brock beat him

Randy was 16-8 when Brock beat him

Mir was 12-3 when Brock beat him

Carwin was 12-0 when Brock beat him



Brock's opponents had a combined 24 losses with a combined record of 58-24 which is pretty laughable



So Conor's opponents 83-10 combined record SHITS ALL over Brock's combined opponents record of 58-24


Not only is Conor statistically far superior to Brock

You just can't even compare Brock's shity HW opponents to the elite caliber of opponents Conor has dismantled.

You're absolutely off your rockers and hell-bent on an agenda against Conor.

Brock isn't in the same universe as Conor when it comes to every single metric possible you can think of

Conor has accomplished far more with a far superior resume while being far more impressive against far superior comp

Why are you even bringing up Brock in this. He isn't worthy enough to be discussed along side Conor. You are trying to muddy the waters

Khabib who's sherdog's new flavor of the month hypejob is the one who PAILS in comparison to Conor too when it comes to resume/wins/performances/highlight reels etc

Did I just ether Taric or what @Final Say ?
 
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Doesn't mean much when the UFC just bumped fighters up and down the rankings to make their opponents wins look better. Old man Siver being in the top 10 is hilarious.
 
He arguably beat Dennis Bermudez who was a very impressive up and coming fighter in his own right that soon landed in the top 5. Max Holloway was fucking good, even then. Of course he's improved since only starting MMA a few years back. Conor has also improved since starting MMA a few years back. Both were young fighters that improved, but Conor still dominated him everywhere with one knee. Deal with it.
If Max can't make FW anymore, and Conor actually comes back to fight and possibly beats Khabib to reclaim his title, I think a Max/Conor rematch would be a very interesting fight for both fighters. I think most people can get behind that fight.
 
What was max ranked when conor beat him
 
Max Holloway was 3-2 in the UFC before he fought Conor. Those wins being Leonard Garcia, Dustin Lawerence, and Pat Schilling. He lost to Dennis Bermudez.
He isn't the same fighter he is today.

This is why in-division rankings matter. Otherwise you can throw out named guys on a resume despite them not even being good at that time frame.
This is what this trolls does

He misinterprets and grossly twists the numbers to suit his anti-Conor agenda.

Notice how he only selectively chops it down to just Holloway's UFC record

Holloway's record was actually 7-2 when Conor beat him...and many felt he was robbed against Bermudaz...

So in all essence Holloway only had 1 legit loss when Conor beat him (But for strict accurate sake, call it 2)

He's trying to make it seem like Holloway was this bad fight when Conor beat him and that's patently and delusionally false.

Holloway was considered a highly regarded prospect when Conor as a prospect himself toyed with Hollowayv

Holloway only had 2 losses, arguably only 1 legit loss at the time

And here's another fun fact, Holloway actually had more UFC fights then Conor at the time, if he only wants to use UFC record at the time...so Holloway actually had more fight experience then Conor at the time.....guess Conor was the rookie who still outclassed Holloway
 
This troll includes Conor's loss to Nate as his new arbitrarily cherry-picked criteria of "ranked record" WHEN Nate was UNRANKED at both LW and WW the first time they fought, yet EXCLUDES Conor's win over Nate in the rematch when Nate was top 5 at LW

Also, none of Brock's opponents compare to Conor's opponents. HW is weak as shit.

Dustin Poirier was 16-3 when Conor beat him

Mendes was 17-2 when Conor beat him

Aldo was 25-1 when Conor beat him

Alvarez was 28-4 when Conor beat him

Conor's four top 5 ranked opponents had a combined 10 losses with a combined record of 83-10

Meanwhile When it comes to Bock's MUCH inferior 4 "top 10 wins"

Heath Herring was 28-13 when Brock beat him

Randy was 16-8 when Brock beat him

Mir was 12-3 when Brock beat him

Carwin was 12-0 when Brock beat him

Brock'a opponents had a combined 24 losses with a combined record of 58-24 which is pretty laughable

So Conor's opponents 83-10 combined record SHITS ALL over Brock's combined opponents record of 58-24

Not only is Conor statistically far superior to Brock

You just can't even compare Brock's shity HW opponents to the elite caliber of opponents Conor has dismantled.

You're absolutely off your rockers and hell-bent on an agenda against Conor.

Brock isn't in the same universe as Conor when it comes to every single metric possible you can think of

Conor has accomplished far more with a far superior resume while being far more impressive against far superior comp

Why are you even bringing up Brock in this. He isn't worthy enough to be discussed along side Conor. You are trying to muddy the waters

Khabib who's sherdog's new flavor of the month hypejob PAILS in comparison to Conor too resume wise/wins wise/performances wise etc

Did I just ether him or what @Final Say ?

Keep in mind when you are talking about HWs you have to take away at least 30% of their wins considering they have at most 70% of the skill level.

Is 20-13 Herring good? NO. Is 11-8 Couture good? NO.

It amazes me how someone can go 5-3-1 in an abomination of a division while being juiced to the gills, and people pretend that isn't journeymen level. There is a reason why someone like Greg Hardy who looks stiff as a board by the way is running and going to continue through the HW division. There's a reason why someone like Ngannou who can't even throw a punch properly (even by MMA standards) was just ranked 2nd and still is ranked in the top 5 after not throwing a punch an entire fight or how his counterpart that is so fat he has back problems also is in the top 5.
 
Keep in mind when you are talking about HWs you have to take away at least 30% of their wins considering they have at most 70% of the skill level.

Is 20-13 Herring good? NO. Is 11-8 Couture good? NO.

It amazes me how someone can go 5-3-1 in an abomination of a division while being juiced to the gills, and people pretend that isn't journeymen level. There is a reason why someone like Greg Hardy who looks stiff as a board by the way is running and going to continue through the HW division. There's a reason why someone like Ngannou who can't even throw a punch properly (even by MMA standards) was just ranked 2nd and still is ranked in the top 5 after not throwing a punch an entire fight or how his counterpart that is so fat he has back problems also is in the top 5.
100% my brother

LHW and HW are the 2 weakest most shallow divisions in all of MMA

Any accomplishments at the lower weight classes (especially FW and LW the 2 greatest in UFC) will always hold far far far far far more significance and relevance then any "accomplishments" at LHW and HW
 
Still a win.
Are you that desperate to award wins?
Even if it is still a win, it warrants an * as his opponent had no training camp.

Diaz was ranked 4 if i remember correctly.
No, he was #5 on their second fight.
Not top 10 when they fought the first time. (he was 2-3 in his last 5 before Conor)
 
Are you that desperate to award wins?
Even if it is still a win, it warrants an * as his opponent had no training camp.
Just because he didn't have training camp doesn't mean he forgot how to wrestle.He did a preety good job 2 rounds and gassed because of no training camp and Conor's body kicks.Stop acting like Conor did nothing to win this fight.

No, he was #5 on their second fight.
Not top 10 when they fought the first time. (he was 2-3 in his last 5 before Conor)
Conor beat him in the second fight.That's what matters.How is that a knock on Conor?
 
Khabib's ranked wins:
Tibau #15(Ranking)
Healy #9(Ranking)
RDA #10(Ranking)
Johnson #14(Ranking)
Barboza #5(Ranking)
Iaquinta #12(Ranking)

3 Top 11-15
2 Top 6-10
1 Top 5


McGregor's ranked wins:
Porier #8(Ranking)
Mendes #2(Ranking)
Aldo #1(Ranking)
Diaz #11(Ranking)
Alvarez #1(Ranking)

1 Top 11-15
1 Top 6-10
3 Top 5


These are all Sherdog's rankings. Anybody else they fought wasn't ranked by them. Obviously, the UFC's would be different, but I don't like theirs anyway.
 
Just because he didn't have training camp doesn't mean he forgot how to wrestle.He did a preety good job 2 rounds and gassed because of no training camp and Conor's body kicks.Stop acting like Conor did nothing to win this fight.

So fighting someone you know had no training camp is equal to fighting someone who had a full camp?
Sorry, but you are making such an asinine point, that is it stupid to continue debating it.

Conor beat him in the second fight.That's what matters.How is that a knock on Conor?
again, It was not at LW and they are both unranked at WW.
So he did not beat any ranked opponent in Nate.
Blame this on Conor, since Nate wanted the fight to be at LW, COnor demanded it to be at WW.
 
Khabib

RDA (not even sure he was a top 10 at that time)
Barboza
Johnson probably was top 10, not anymore.

Conor
Aldo
Mendes
Eddie
were top 10 for sure.

Poirier & Max weren't top 10 when he fought then.
But looking at it now, it's pretty impressive.
DP was near top 5 when Conor fought him. Siver was also 10 and Nate was top ten but at LW, as he just beat MJ. The last non top 10 that Conor faced was Brandao.
 
Khabib's ranked wins:
Tibau #15(Ranking)
Healy #9(Ranking)
RDA #10(Ranking)
Johnson #14(Ranking)
Barboza #5(Ranking)
Iaquinta #12(Ranking)

3 Top 11-15
2 Top 6-10
1 Top 5


McGregor's ranked wins:
Porier #8(Ranking)
Mendes #2(Ranking)
Aldo #1(Ranking)
Diaz #11(Ranking)
Alvarez #1(Ranking)

1 Top 11-15
1 Top 6-10
3 Top 5


These are all Sherdog's rankings. Anybody else they fought wasn't ranked by them. Obviously, the UFC's would be different, but I don't like theirs anyway.
These are Sherdog top ten tho, not the official ones the UFC uses. They are probably more accurate tho, as they include worldwide and UFC has a way of upranking a guy w\ a big fight (I.e. Siver being ranked ten for the Conor fight).
 
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What does Mike Perry's ex have to do with Conor?
 
And to put it into perspective, here's Fedor's list:

Fedor - 13 ranked HW wins

#1 fighters defeated (1):
Nogueira 1
Top 5 fighters defeated (5):
Nogueira 3
Cro Cop
Arlovski
Sylvia
Herring
Top 10 fighters defeated (7):
Coleman 1
Coleman 2
Hunt
Randleman
Schilt
Rogers
Fujita
That's fucking hilarious lmao. Arlovski, Herring, and Sylvia top 5 when Fedor beat them? Same with that entire Top 10 list except for fluke Rogers. HW really was absolute garbage back then though so who knows.
 
ANOTHER Conor hating myth debunked

Siver was a top 5 FW from the begining of rankings

https://web.archive.org/web/20130205013040/http://www.ufc.com/rankings

Who routinely hoovered around the top 5-10 until Conor beat him


I will give you that the UFC had him at 9 or 10 at the time of the fight. You seemed to take a much earlier ranking to help support your point.

Quite a difference between the UFC ranking and fight metric

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...torical-rankings/?Issue=101&Division=6&Page=1
 
Khabib's ranked wins:
Tibau #15(Ranking)
Healy #9(Ranking)
RDA #10(Ranking)
Johnson #14(Ranking)
Barboza #5(Ranking)
Iaquinta #12(Ranking)

3 Top 11-15
2 Top 6-10
1 Top 5


McGregor's ranked wins:
Porier #8(Ranking)
Mendes #2(Ranking)
Aldo #1(Ranking)
Diaz #11(Ranking)
Alvarez #1(Ranking)

1 Top 11-15
1 Top 6-10
3 Top 5


These are all Sherdog's rankings. Anybody else they fought wasn't ranked by them. Obviously, the UFC's would be different, but I don't like theirs anyway.

Sherdog rankings are awful.
 
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