How many shots can they give Lorenz Larkin

he is ufc level but wont be in the UFC for his next fight.
 
Szwok said:
he is ufc level but wont be in the UFC for his next fight.
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Lorenz isnt going anywhere. If the UFC is smart they will try to develop this guy. Maybe give him a couple lower ranked guys so he can get a little more experience in the Octagon. I see him being a title contender one day.
 
He's a lot of fun to watch and has a really cool, unique style with amazing flexibility and takedown defense.

And anyone who actually watched his fight with Carmont knows what to say.
 
Larkin won every round against Carmont imo.
 
Yeah he got robbed against Carmont that must obviously mean he is not UFC level :rolleyes:.

But he seriously should consider a move down to 170. Because 185 just doesn't work out for him imo.
 
If he wasn't a flashy striker, he'd probably be cut now but they'll give him one more...im fine with that, he has a fan-friendly style but badly needs to win the next one.
 
devilrojo145 said:
Deserving more shots due to entertainment value is everything wrong in this sport.
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Hardly, the UFC needs to remain entertaining as well if they still plan to expand the sport. It's really a small sacrifice (for now, at least) and it's not like Larkin is a Houston Alexander or Kimbo. He's clearly a skilled fighter that has had nothing but tough matchups in all his UFC bouts.

I'd say give the man one more shot. Maybe against someone like Natal or Yan Carbal, both who lost their fight last Saturday.
 
He is definitely UFC level. It was not too long ago he won a pretty easy decision over Lawler, albeit it was at 185. Lawler is clearly better at 170, but he was no slouch at 185 either.

Most agree he beat Carmont. He beat Carmozzi who has a bunch of UFC wins. He looked a little off in his last 2, but, he was still competitive. He's fun to watch, and fairly well rounded. He deserves another shot.

topDJbro said:
It is really unfortunate because the ceiling for Larkin is still incredibly high. Watching him fight, he shows signs of a true contender. It just hasn't came together for him, hopefully he gets another shot.
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I think so too.
 
JustinvR said:
Yeah he got robbed against Carmont that must obviously mean he is not UFC level :rolleyes:.

But he seriously should consider a move down to 170. Because 185 just doesn't work out for him imo.
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Him vs. Carmont was one of Sherdog's 2013 robberies of the year. #2 actually.

The UFC’s seventh offering on Fox was one of the year’s most action-packed cards, with a solid handful of well-made fights ending in thrilling stoppages. However, it was not a perfect evening on April 20 in San Jose, Calif., due to MMA’s ever-present and destructive specter: poor judging. The main event between then-UFC lightweight champ Ben Henderson and challenger Gilbert Melendez -- a fight most felt Melendez deserved by a slim-if-arguable margin -- was the most obvious source of contention, as it was a marquee matchup between two super-elite competitors. However, Melendez was far from the night’s biggest victim. That unfortunate title went to Larkin, a Strikeforce veteran who was given the rawest of
deals in his Octagon debut.

Carmont, who was fresh off of his previous undeserved decision win over Tom Lawlor at UFC 154, pressed forward for the duration of the contest, seeking takedowns on the flashy striking Larkin. However, in spite of his four-or-more-inch height advantage, considerable reach advantage and ostensible wrestling advantage, Carmont struggled to produce any meaningful offense over the 15 minutes, as he was picked apart by counters from the Riverside, Calif., native.

Larking showed off incredible balance and great defensive instincts, defending a single-leg attempt from Carmont in the first round with his ankle wresting on the Frenchman’s shoulder, hopping around on one foot while still punching his foe. It was a microcosm of the fight itself: Carmont doggedly tried for takedowns but mostly failed, while Larkin craftily snuck away and countered with punches, elbows and low kicks. Even when Carmont did get a takedown in the third round, he was hit with a kimura, and Larkin used it to scramble back to his feet.

“Limitless” was hardly that in his bout with Larkin. The Firas Zahabi pupil was 2-for-11 on his takedowns in the fight and accrued no real offense whatsoever. In the first round, Carmont landed a single strike to Larkin’s 11. In the second, he landed eight to Larkin’s 21. All this while he ran forward into counters while failing at takedowns.

Even if someone liked Carmont in the third round, finding a second frame for him seemed dubious. Yet somehow, all three judges -- Michael Bell, Derek Cleary and Edward Collantes -- had it 29-28 for Carmont. Bell and Cleary even saw fit to give Carmont the first round for his one-strike, zero-takedown performance. All too often the word “robbery” is tossed around in MMA, referring to any fight that comes down to a contentious swing round. Here, Larkin won no less than two and most likely won three rounds, while judges literally rewarded his opponent for doing next to nothing. Silicon Valley might be a peachy place to live, but Larkin proved you can still get robbed in San Jose.
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http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/4/Sherdogcoms-2013-Miscellaneous-Awards-61921
 
That fight was a fun fight, Larkin has a fun style and he lost to a couple top ten guys. And the Carmont fight really could have gone his way as well.

He's UFC level, give him a step down and he most likely wins. Top 15 level? No. But he's certainly capable.
 
MeatheadFighter said:
He dominated Lawler. If he could get down to 170 he could do well.
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tbf, Lawler was just half ass taking whatever fight he could get and not cutting any weight. He probably didn't even watch tape on Larkin.

Lawler's entire SF career was pretty bad, especially at the end. It's nice to see him back at his natural weight class fighting in the top 5.
 
He beat Carmont and was hitting Costa with some hard shots. Costa just managed to walk through them and nail him with two absurdly hard shots.

He fought super weird in the Tavares fight though. Really tentative on the feet, where he should have annihilated Brad.
 
I'm biased towards Larking, but I say keep him around. He's fun to watch and he will keep improving.
 
It's not like Costa ran over Larkin, it was a gunfight and they both ate big shots but Larkin went down first. I bet Larkin gets a lower level guy in his next fight and destroys him tbh.
 
larkin is great to watch, hope they keep him around. give him a couple of low level guys to see if he can build his confidence a bit. philippou is a tough fight
 
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