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How many new moves can you remember in a class?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Sloth, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. Sloth

    Sloth Brown Belt

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    I'm curious, how many new techniques can you effectively remember in a one hour class without getting overwhelmed and starting to blur them all together, or just not remembering them at all?
     
  2. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    When I started training, the norm was to teach 3 differents moves per day.

    But the instructor realised that people just got confused so he just teach one move (and a few variations) per class instead.
     
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    Baconator69** Banned Banned

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    I try for one, Im happy if I really understand one. the rest is gravy.
     
  4. Jagcorps_esq

    Jagcorps_esq Red Belt

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    I'm pretty good at this. I may not get the physical memory of it, but I can explain the details of any class within the last month.'

    I'm comfortable with 3 to 5 new techniques at a time, but I know for sure it would be better to do no more than 3. That's just a talent I have and would gladly trade to actually be able to do the things I can remember...but oh well.
     
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    1-3. Usually it's 2 per class.
     
  6. minotaurorush

    minotaurorush Orange Belt

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    between 1 and 3 is ideal, helps if they're related.
     
  7. Andrew Green

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    Depends a lot on how they are taught.

    For example, if I spend 10 mins teaching one, then go to another, then another then another, chances are they'll be forgot.

    But if they lead into each other, so that in order to get to that 4th, you have to do the first 3, or at least attempt them, then people are more likely to remember all 4.

    Or if there is a "review" that helps as well. Something like
    Technique 1 for 10 mins
    Technique 2 for 10 mins
    Alternate Technique 1 & 2 for 5 mins
    Technique 3 for 10 mins
    Alternate Technique 1,2 & 3 for 10 mins

    People will remember something a lot better if you do it, then do something else, then get them to do it again.

    Another example would be a flow drill, I could teach:
    guard pass -> Side
    Side -> mount
    Bridge & Roll -> Guard

    to a brand new student, and they would have the general feel for each. Could probably even through in a sweep & elbow escape. There would be very little in terms of details retained, but the basic concept could be retained.

    Or on the flipside, you could work something like keeping posture in guard... not really a technique, more of a concept. I could explain the concept to you in about 30 seconds and you'll remember it, but it's going to likely take many classes before its "there"
     
  8. -Montanha-

    -Montanha- Blue Belt

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    You are rare, most can only take in one, some times two.

    Old Brazilian teaching con. Charge a lot for a private and show them 6 or 7 moves, it overloads them and they learn nothing. Extra cash though.
     
  9. Andrew Green

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    Is it a con, or is it giving them what they wanted, instead of what they needed?
     
  10. elbigsam

    elbigsam Blue Belt

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    After a certain point its all variations on the same basic principles, thinking 3 dimensionally, etc, fret not.
     
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    -Montanha- Blue Belt

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    Giving them what they want, is how you con yourself.
     
  12. SteelHammer

    SteelHammer Green Belt

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    3 I guess
     
  13. -Montanha-

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    That is when you can absorb more, connecting techniques with their principals.
     
  14. ijustwannasurf

    ijustwannasurf Brown Belt

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    One concept applied to several techniques, or one or two variations of one technique; then hella reps.
     
  15. nefti

    nefti Red Belt

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    it depends on the student's lvl. But for noobs 1 or 2 at the most. For advanced students 3~4 but the last 2 being variations of the first technique
     
  16. RearAndNaked

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    2, the one i'm focusing on, then when they block that one, the complimentary move.
     
  18. HomerPlata

    HomerPlata Purple Belt

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    Remember properly? I'd say two at the most, and possibly slight variants of that. Any more than three and you're either training too long or not drilling enough reps.
     
  19. blackers10

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    as a noob at the moment I am struggling with just 1
    but the BIGGER issue I have is understanding all the small bits that make up the move that a new person doesn't know/understand/see like keeping your head in or constantly shifting the base to be more stable

    What our teacher usually does is 2 moves but they are usually 2 from the same thing ie half guard escape to side mount then we did half guard to wizzer(apparently thats the name) then roll them back over when they push back and go into side control again
     
  20. hughes fan

    hughes fan Silver Belt

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    In an hour I think that one basic move and one in depth move that ties in with the move is probably all you should be expected to know.
     

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