Opinion How many more deaths is an economic collapse/this panic going to cause than C-19 ever will?

[Big Nasty Edison]

Yes, and the at-risk population in the US is estimated at about 60 percent.

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So yeah, while healthy young adults and children have little risk of dying, they can still infect those who are more vulnerable. And beyond just the substantial number of elderly in this country are the millions on CPAP or dialysis.

God has sent a plague to punish the boomers, that's why the young and healthy are spared.

Bless

 

[fedoriswar37]

Not everything is about U.S. politics

Countries all around the world are reacting strongly
and it has nothing to do with Bernie or Trump

This. Its not a partisan issue. Its a people issue. But tell that to the fucking morons on CNN, Or fox, or social media bloggers, or political commentators, or aunt jude who hasnt shut mainstream nees off for 72 hours or whoever the fuck else is out there making this an "orange man bad" or "stupid snowflake" issue.

 

[all caps]

You're not doing your job if you're not exploiting a situation. Remember Halliburton 35 billion determined as overpricing or something during the Iraq war. You will see New York real estate projects that have bonds due by the end of next year infused with billions because of you know the virus. There is a virus but the amounts of money already pleaded and billions if not trillions more make you wonder.


“Today the Federal Reserve announced it would inject more than $1.5 trillion into Wall Street to mitigate the economic fallout from the coronavirus outbreak. Yes, you heard that right: 1,500,000,000,000 dollars sent to Wall Street in a split second.

I am so sick and tired of the establishment telling us what we can’t afford. If we can find over a trillion dollars for Wall Street in a heartbeat, we can find the money to cancel student debt, provide universal healthcare for all, and enact a Green New Deal. America has socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for everyone else.”

~ Robert Reich

 

[rob mafia]

I think it's going to be a lot more. The current panic shopping and lack of supplies, the stress of losing your entire retirement, losing your job, the suicides and sickness resulting from it all, general misery... The measures being taken are going to cause thousands and thousands more deaths than C-19, and it's going to affect far, far more healthy working people. China has lost 5,000 from it so far, and the sick season is nearing an end. Those Chinese people spread all over China in that first month. Mono is more dangerous.

What is really dangerous to peoples health is a collapsed economy. Far more dangerous than the bad cold we are facing. I mean, people making decisions have to know this. This is common sense. Is it really about making sure no Bernie or Trump? Is it something like that? Because the measures being taken are going to cause more misery in peoples lives than C-19 by far.

mostly agreed. we seemed to have proactively caused our own recession (and seem to be trying to cause a depression) via fearmongering/nonsense.

people were/are so scared of getting a new flu that everything's gone to shit. as if certain economic collapse and the national guard here to lockdown shit is somehow better. i'm sure the suicides/overdoses/murders will be low. /s asian people have been assaulted in philly due to this fearmongering nonsense.

*shrugs* i think it made more sense to have high-risk (ie: elderly, unhealthy) people quarantine themselves/have nursing homes/etc with tight protocols and let the rest of the world be business as usual. people will get it, people will recover. no idea why it's being treated as if it's a death sentence and as if it's some permanent contagion... as if everyone who gets it will always be contagious until they die.

 

[stav]

I do agree that until millions or hundreds of millions die. It isnt black plague level. That killed hundreds of millions.

During the time of the black plague the ppl didn’t have our level of medical tech and care.

close down all the hospitals and remove all medical care and yes.. hundreds of millions will die instead of hundreds of thousands.

 

[Renard]

The US is still in the early stage. It's like having a tsunami headed towards you, and saying the fear of the tsunami is worse. The wave hasn't even hit yet.

 

[original doom]

grandparents living away from any children or grandchildren will suffer. elderly who use walkers or canes to assist them plus cant drive and need a plethora of drugs too keep them alive but arent in a nursing home might find it very very difficult to attain essentials.

during supernaket runs hows the old man going to get bread + milk ?

 

[original doom]

doesnt matter.

 

[Deleted member 499399]

I believe the most deaths will occur during battle royals in the toilet paper aisle at Costco. It’s disappointing to see people’s ignorance and lack of nuance on full display.
Wash your hands. Avoid large crowds. Don’t panic.

 

[Andy Capp]

If there are still Justflubros at this point I really dont know..

I really dont know.

In a sense it is, though. The vast majority of people who get it will suffer only mild symptoms. Of those that remain, a large number will recover after a period of severe illness. This will pass after a period of sadness and tragedy like SARS did.

Lots and lots of people will be perfectly fine. But it's certainly true the economic impacts go far beyond merely who is sick and who is not. It's fucking my life up completely and I may never come close to anyone with this illness. I started my own business last year and it depends a great deal on people travelling, particularly in summer. If this gets to the point where even my extremely lucky little pocket of the world suffers an outbreak, I'm basically out of business unless I can get government help of some kind. It's already looking pretty grim.

Unlike TS, however, I doubt economic trouble will lead to mass death on its own in any country that can spend its way out of anarchy.

 

[TheGreatA]

If people are going to kill themselves over it, well, those kinds of people were probably going to find a way, anyway.

Can't protect everybody from themselves. You can't protect people from fears of disease, and basic things like that.

The way I see it, if anything, this should prompt a survival instinct in humans that should encourage them to live their life to the fullest, and appreciate every moment they've got. We haven't been truly "tested" in a long time, here in the Western world. This is our generation being put to the test, now let's see how well we've been prepared. It's time to stop worrying about menial things of little importance, when there's a world-wide virus looking to infect and potentially kill your ass.

There are people in this world who've lived in a shit economy for decades and they're still there. Losing your 2nd house or 3rd car or that 65" TV set, isn't the end of the world.

 

[ShinkanPo]

In a sense it is, though. The vast majority of people who get it will suffer only mild symptoms. Of those that remain, a large number will recover after a period of severe illness. This will pass after a period of sadness and tragedy like SARS did.

Lots and lots of people will be perfectly fine. But it's certainly true the economic impacts go far beyond merely who is sick and who is not. It's fucking my life up completely and I may never come close to anyone with this illness. I started my own business last year and it depends a great deal on people travelling, particularly in summer. If this gets to the point where even my extremely lucky little pocket of the world suffers an outbreak, I'm basically out of business unless I can get government help of some kind. It's already looking pretty grim.

Unlike TS, however, I doubt economic trouble will lead to mass death on its own in any country that can spend its way out of anarchy.

I already took a massive pay cut over this. I work in a Travel Agency servicing mostly European market

So I feel yeah heck with the things are going in the EU I may not even have a job by next Month.

Death rates may not be as high as the 1918 influenza but rate of infection could be the same and will still be disruptive as people cant go to work.


I live in a 3rd werld country with a High population mass in the City it could be hell here in 2 weeks.

 

[ShinkanPo]

If people are going to kill themselves over it, well, those kinds of people were probably going to find a way, anyway.

Can't protect everybody from themselves. You can't protect people from fears of disease, and basic things like that.

The way I see it, if anything, this should prompt a survival instinct in humans that should encourage them to live their life to the fullest, and appreciate every moment they've got. We haven't been truly "tested" in a long time, here in the Western world. This is our generation being put to the test, now let's see how well we've been prepared. It's time to stop worrying about menial things of little importance, when there's a world-wide virus looking to infect and potentially kill your ass.

There are people in this world who've lived in a shit economy for decades and they're still there. Losing your 2nd house or 3rd car or that 65" TV set, isn't the end of the world.

But those with only one TV will now lose it.

Those who will lose parrents or their bread winners will be begging the streets soon if they are already poor before this.

 

[HereticBD]

Bad poll. Of course, a general societal collapse would be worse than the coronavirus but we are nowhere near it even if your local market run out of toilet paper.

Nowhere near it? I think we're pretty goddamn close to it. Next up, border closures. Fun times ahead!

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

In a sense it is, though. The vast majority of people who get it will suffer only mild symptoms. Of those that remain, a large number will recover after a period of severe illness. This will pass after a period of sadness and tragedy like SARS did.

Lots and lots of people will be perfectly fine. But it's certainly true the economic impacts go far beyond merely who is sick and who is not. It's fucking my life up completely and I may never come close to anyone with this illness. I started my own business last year and it depends a great deal on people travelling, particularly in summer. If this gets to the point where even my extremely lucky little pocket of the world suffers an outbreak, I'm basically out of business unless I can get government help of some kind. It's already looking pretty grim.

Unlike TS, however, I doubt economic trouble will lead to mass death on its own in any country that can spend its way out of anarchy.

The wealth disparity is going to be widen dramatically when all this is over. The people living paycheck to paycheck have to dip into emergency funds to get through this (if they were fortunate enough to have one), while the wealthy have cash on hand to gobble up stocks at a steep discount.

 

[Stoic1]

If you don't have a 90 day supply of EVERYTHING you are behind the curve.

Good luck.

Also, shame on you for not having enough foresight to take care of your family.

 

[Amerikuracana]

If you don't have a 90 day supply of EVERYTHING you are behind the curve.

Good luck.

Also, shame on you for not having enough foresight to take care of your family.

When I was 22 I had around 10gs in the bank, good credit, and my own place. I wasn't some better person, or smarter, or anything than I am right now struggling. You've had a steady job for some years.. Good for you, but things happen to people sometimes.

 

[ineverpost]

It's just exposing the house of cards that is the US economy. One bad event and the economy is on the brink of collapse.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Why is there no poll option for “the panic/economic collapse will cause many deaths, but not more than covid19 itself”?

 

[grimballer]

C-19 is obviously a globalist hoax.

they unleashed a highly contagious not so deadly virus to freak out everybody.

this will lead to world leaders taking 1st steps into creating a “more connected world” in order to combat global pandemics, terrorism n eventually creation of OWG (one world government). All the individual rights will be suppressed for the greater good.