Social how long has this cultural and political divide been going on in the US?

[TheRealHNIC]

Integration didn't cut us off at the knees. You're going to have back up that claim with something concrete.

Otherwise, the idea that not being granted equal access to home loans, colleges, jobs, water fountains, eating establishments, gas stations while traveling, etc. was a long term benefit is simply absurd. Too many people have peddled this idea that being stuck on the bottom of the economy with almost zero chance of upward mobility was great because at least all black people were suffering together.

Where are black people at now in regards to the economy? Did we ever move out of the bottom?

 

[panamaican]

Where are black people at now in regards to the economy? Did we ever move out of the bottom?

Black people have moved further than they were. It would be incorrect to pretend that because we haven't reached the top that we haven't moved. One can make progress and still have further to go.

But that's irrelevant to what I was responding to. The claim was that integration cut off black america at the knees -- that's not true. Someone can be disappointed with the rate of progress but that's 180 degrees from a claim that black America was actually harmed.

 

[MT7]

This is fascinating. Pretty clear that since the proliferation of social media, the fringe elements of both parties have grown and the centrist base of both have shrunk.

Perhaps one positive outcome from this would be a 3rd political party in the middle (Centrist Party) that could gobble up the people in the Republican and Democratic parties that are not batshit crazy yet.

Would be great to not feel like an outcast for once.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

When a Black man became President and the GOP decided their entire platform was going to be obstructionism and not come to the table for any bipartisanship

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

For a long, long time. Anyone remember hearing about the American civil war?

 

[D3THRONED]

Because idiots are too retarded to realize they’re being trolled by Russian and Chinese shitposters. Anyone with a tiny fraction of intelligence knows this partisan fuckery is all designed. It’s further exploited by political parties for outrage porn to further make libs and repubs hate each other even more. Dumb people are the problem.

 

[HOLA]

Cultural Marxism. Like the poster above explained its been in full effect since the 60s. There has been a shift over the last 10 years but that's just a culmination of various agendas coming into fruition. All the groundwork laid down in the 60s-90s started to really show itself in the mid-2000s.

The true foundation for the cultural marxism ravaging our society today was the Civil Rights Movement. The CRM was a Bolshevik financed Black Communist movement no different than BLM is today. Its important to really wrap your mind around this fact. The reason conservatives have such a hard time fending off constant pushes for the creation, acceptance, and "equality" of more and more identities and groups of people is because they accepted the idea of "racial equality". The very concept of "equality", regardless of the catalyst, is the fuel that runs Marxism.

America simply cannot last as a society until they reject the Equality Doctrine across the board. But that is most likely an impossibility at this point. The cancer is terminal.

<Lmaoo>

Kulturbolschewismus (that's what the Nazis called it) has been around (well, the conspiracy theory has, at least) since the 1920's. I guess they're playing the long game?

 

[TheRealHNIC]

Black people have moved further than they were.

Are you able to substantiate this claim?

But that's irrelevant to what I was responding to. The claim was that integration cut off black america at the knees -- that's not true. Someone can be disappointed with the rate of progress but that's 180 degrees from a claim that black America was actually harmed.

Your assertion was that forced integration was a good and necessary thing because thats what was going to bring, or help bring, black people out of the bottom of the economic ladder. But then you admit that 60 yrs after forced integration that black people are still at the bottom. So the question becomes how true is your assertion? The answer is 'completely false'.

My assertion is that forced integration locked black people into the bottom rung of society. And 60yrs after forved integration what is it you see?

Sure you can claim that forced integration is actually working just very slowly. And if we give it another 100 yrs black people may one day move out of the bottom. I don't think that's a credible claim.

 

[TheRealHNIC]

<Lmaoo>

Kulturbolschewismus (that's what the Nazis called it) has been around (well, the conspiracy theory has, at least) since the 1920's. I guess they're playing the long game?

We've already covered this. No one is talking about Nazis. Sorry.

 

[HOLA]

We've already covered this. No one is talking about Nazis. Sorry.

Ahh, I see. You want to talk about Nazi conspiracy theories without people pointing out the inconvenient fact that you're talking about Nazi conspiracy theories.

 

[trac209]

Started right around the time married with children was canceled. And culminated right around the time the put Al bundy Polk highs all time touchdown champ on a shit show like “modern family “ .

 

[HOLA]

It would be interesting to see this survey done in more detail...semiannually or something. And going back farther in time, into the 80's.

Rush Limbaugh in the late 80's, Fox News in 1996, and the rise of social media - Facebook echo chambers etc - no doubt exacerbated the problem. As did a black guy becoming president.

 

[HOLA]

Started right around the time married with children was canceled. And culminated right around the time the put Al bundy Polk highs all time touchdown champ on a shit show like “modern family “ .

 

[TheRealHNIC]

Ahh, I see. You want to talk about Nazi conspiracy theories without people pointing out the inconvenient fact that you're talking about Nazi conspiracy theories.

Still not talking about Nazis. This is just your Marxist tactic of calling something "nazi" in an effort to shut it down.

Your playbook is old and tired.

 

[trac209]

Wtf is this shit for

 

[panamaican]

Are you able to substantiate this claim?



Your assertion was that forced integration was a good and necessary thing because thats what was going to bring, or help bring, black people out of the bottom of the economic ladder. But then you admit that 60 yrs after forced integration that black people are still at the bottom. So the question becomes how true is your assertion? The answer is 'completely false'.

My assertion is that forced integration locked black people into the bottom rung of society. And 60yrs after forved integration what is it you see?

Sure you can claim that forced integration is actually working just very slowly. And if we give it another 100 yrs black people may one day move out of the bottom. I don't think that's a credible claim.

First, there's no reason to misrepresent what you said:

I'm black. The civil rights movement and forced integration hurt us more than anyone. And that was by design. But please carry on.

I asked you to establish that with something concrete. You still have not.

As for what I said --
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/black-progress-how-far-weve-come-and-how-far-we-have-to-go/
https://www.rand.org/pubs/papers/P6055.html
https://www.epi.org/publication/50-years-after-the-kerner-commission/#
https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c8913/c8913.pdf

You can go down the rabbit hole and read for yourself. Some things got worse, such as the availability of black teachers, some things remained the same, but overall black America is better positioned than they were pre-segregation.

 

[Diogenes of Sinope]

Still not talking about Nazis. This is just your Marxist tactic of calling something "nazi" in an effort to shut it down.

Your playbook is old and tired.

 

[HOLA]

Wtf is this shit for

It's from Married With Children.

 

[Wet Blanket]

Still not talking about Nazis.

But u are tho.

 

[TheRealHNIC]

Lol that was great