How is someone as unathletic as punk able to become a professional wrestler?

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I mean I don't really follow it but I was expecting Brock Lesnar levels of skill and athleticism when I first heard about him going into MMA
 
You looked at CM Punk and expected Brock Lesnar levels of athleticism? You didn't see a stark difference of body type there?
 
pro wrestlers don't deal with usada
 
You just fly in from stupid town?
 
Pro wrestling is far more about acting skills, mic skills, promo skills and looking good with a least seven coats of bronzer on you. Yes you actually have to be able to wrestle and yes you need to have the cardio to pull off a match but it's a lot more weight lifting and tumbling than it is fighting. MMA is probably the most tiring sport on earth. When you take the body of a broken down wrestler and actually expect him to compete in a young man's game you're asking for trouble.

I mean fuck, how many of these dudes have actually done real Greco Roman or Freestyle in WWE? Brock was a champion. Kurt Angle was a gold medalist and I only know that because he never shuts up about it. Other than that I can't name any WWE guys that have legit success in real grappling.
 
I think you misunderstood what TS is saying, he doesn't really watch wrestling, so you'd think that whomever is crossing over to MMA would have some sort of proper martial arts background, anything, something, but this Punk has no fighting experience, 0, never did any amateur wrestling, how can that happen? He's on the main card but he's never fought before, this was a very bad public promo that backfired sure as shit lol.
 
WWE fans used to complain about Punk being un athletic also. Go search Google if you want some laughs.
 
Who gives a flying shit about fake wrestlin
 
riitzni said:
Pro wrestling is far more about acting skills, mic skills, promo skills and looking good with a least seven coats of bronzer on you. Yes you actually have to be able to wrestle and yes you need to have the cardio to pull off a match but it's a lot more weight lifting and tumbling than it is fighting. MMA is probably the most tiring sport on earth. When you take the body of a broken down wrestler and actually expect him to compete in a young man's game you're asking for trouble.

I mean fuck, how many of these dudes have actually done real Greco Roman or Freestyle in WWE? Brock was a champion. Kurt Angle was a gold medalist and I only know that because he never shuts up about it. Other than that I can't name any WWE guys that have legit success in real grappling.
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Steve Blackman and Samoa Joe come to mind.
 
Some of the most unathletic people you have ever seen are some of the greatest pro wrestlers ever.

Mick Foley?
Ric Flair??

The ultimate warrior was basically a stiff stagnant pile of steroids.
 
Uncommon Valor said:
Steve Blackman and Samoa Joe come to mind.
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My buddy has been a hardcore pro wrestling fan since he was like eight, he's like 37 now. I'll ask him for a better list, I'm sure he has that shit memorized.
 
riitzni said:
I mean fuck, how many of these dudes have actually done real Greco Roman or Freestyle in WWE? Brock was a champion. Kurt Angle was a gold medalist and I only know that because he never shuts up about it. Other than that I can't name any WWE guys that have legit success in real grappling.
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It's a different era, back in the day most pro wrestlers had real amateur wrestling backgrounds, who then became pro wrestling 'entertainers', but they could always work, nowadays, these wrestlers are trained in corporate run pro wrestling schools, they're entertainers first, taught a few wrestling moves later lol.
 
Uncommon Valor said:
Steve Blackman and Samoa Joe come to mind.
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He added Dolph Ziggler, undefeated at Penn State, Shelton Benjamin, Mick Foley in high school, Bobby Lashley, Chad Gable and Jason Jordon. I don't know most of these guys except Mick and Bobby.
 
riitzni said:
He added Dolph Ziggler, undefeated at Penn State, Shelton Benjamin, Mick Foley in high school, Bobby Lashley, Chad Gable and Jason Jordon. I don't know most of these guys except Mick and Bobby.
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Jack Swagger wrestled Cain Velasquez in college. He lost 4-0.
 
Straightcross said:
I mean I don't really follow it but I was expecting Brock Lesnar levels of skill and athleticism when I first heard about him going into MMA
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Most wrestlers failed at other sports

The rock, football
Macho man, baseball

Etc
 
There are a lot of different ways to become a successful pro wrestler. Hogan, Warrior, Randy Savage, Lex Luger and others got there through the bodybuilding route, Rick Rude, Ricky Steamboat, Bret Hart, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Dean Malenko and Eddie Guerrero got there through having highly refined wrestling skills they could bring to the entertainment stage and of course Lesnar and Angle brought it to a fundamentally different level with much stronger amateur backgrounds. CM Punk is one of those guys who got there through more grit and charisma and connecting with audiences and the WWE bookers. And even WWE's biggest critics have come around to the fact that they are all athletes if you define it as the ability to withstand physical stress and exertion as part of a regular schedule. CM Punk has had years of touring in the WWE at a particularly grueling pace,a lot more so at this point than Lesnar did when he first got into MMA (and of course doesn't have Lesnar's wrestling or Pacific Ocean deep gene pool); it was always madness to expect you'd be able to get anything out of him in pro MMA.
 
It wasn't always like that. Maybe 30 plus years ago, someone like CM Punk would have never have been allowed in the wrestling business.
 
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