How is Khabib hype diffferent from the "Machida era"?

[ferrisjso]

How are these hypes different, both undefeated when they became champ both with very memeable victories over the previous champion? How is Khabib's reign supposed to go any different than Machida's? Why am I supposed to believe that Khabib is the chosen one?

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Machida kept fighting so its not the same

 

[PicoPulse]

One uses karate and one wrestles.

 

[PicoPulse]

It'll really be the same when Conor KOs him in the rematch

 

[dekuta]

Don't remember Machida being 27-0

 

[imarayda]

Khabib didn’t get gifted a decision

 

[Oeshon]

Machida was never considered to be a GOAT during his run. He was 'the riddle to be figured out'

Khabib even before he was champion was considered the best fighter in the division. The only thing they have in common is that they are both undefeated when winning the belt.

 

[NoSmilez]

Machida’s style was new and “innovative” vs khabib’s style that was used over and over again by previous fighters.

 

[djason1988]

People make fun of the "machida era", but he got the lhw title, in a stacked division, with an undefeated record, which i'm pretty sure was a first at that time. And even today, he's considered one of the greatest strikers in mma. He retired Couture, smoked mousasi, and gave us Shadface. Throw some hespect on his name.

 

[Luthien]

Conor never did the stanky leg

 

[moreorless87]

Machida was never considered to be a GOAT during his run. He was 'the riddle to be figured out'.

To be fair as well beyond Shogun and Jones I think Machida might have dominated for awhile, the Rampage and Davis fights were both close and with a bit more motivation and maybe hype influencing judges he could well not have lost to anyone else until Weidman.

You also I'd argue had a significant shift in LHW around the turn of the decade were it became much more common for larger fighters to duck HW and fight in the division instead, Lyoto was clearly far smaller than Jones, Bader and Davis.

 

[Source]

How are these hypes different, both undefeated when they became champ both with very memeable victories over the previous champion? How is Khabib's reign supposed to go any different than Machida's? Why am I supposed to believe that Khabib is the chosen one?

Why don’t you explain why it’s going end up the same?

 

[Damon3388]

To be fair as well beyond Shogun and Jones I think Machida might have dominated for awhile, the Rampage and Davis fights were both close and with a bit more motivation and maybe hype influencing judges he could well not have lost to anyone else until Weidman.

You also I'd argue had a significant shift in LHW around the turn of the decade were it became much more common for larger fighters to duck HW and fight in the division instead, Lyoto was clearly far smaller than Jones, Bader and Davis.

Yeah, at his size (6'1", with a 74-inch reach), Lyoto was moreso a natural 185er. Could have even cut to 170 too, if he had really wanted to.

 

[ferrisjso]

People make fun of the "machida era", but he got the lhw title, in a stacked division, with an undefeated record, which i'm pretty sure was a first at that time. And even today, he's considered one of the greatest strikers in mma. He retired Couture, smoked mousasi, and gave us Shadface. Throw some hespect on his name.

Oh I think Machida's one of the greatest ever but I also know most people don't feel that way while Khabib/Tony is the most popular fighter in Sherdog history, wonder why people are so confident? I just don't know why people are so confident that Khabib(assuming he keeps fighting) can't lose to Tony or someone(please not Conor anyone but him)? Shogun was the dude who lost to Forrest and who was resigned to being washed up in his mid 20s.

 

[ferrisjso]

Why don’t you explain why it’s going end up the same?

I know I ask a lot of sarcastic questions I actually don't have an answer to this one and am genuinely curious.

 

[613]

Machida was never considered to be a GOAT during his run. He was 'the riddle to be figured out'

Khabib even before he was champion was considered the best fighter in the division. The only thing they have in common is that they are both undefeated when winning the belt.

Many though Machida was the future GOAT when he won the belt. Jones is really the only fighter i have seen that had more people calling him the future GOAT after winning the belt

 

[djason1988]

Oh I think Machida's one of the greatest ever but I also know most people don't feel that way while Khabib/Tony is the most popular fighter in Sherdog history, wonder why people are so confident? I just don't know why people are so confident that Khabib(assuming he keeps fighting) can't lose to Tony or someone(please not Conor anyone but him)? Shogun was the dude who lost to Forrest and who was resigned to being washed up in his mid 20s.

I don't see why either. Khabib is a pure grappler who has benefited heavily from the lack of high level wrestlers in LW.

 

[Moro]

It'll really be the same when Conor KOs him in the rematch

There's no version of Conor that poses any threat to Khabib.

 

[ferrisjso]

Many though Machida was the future GOAT when he won the belt. Jones is really the only fighter i have seen that had more people calling him the future GOAT after winning the belt

I wrote a long ass article in my HS paper about how Jones was the GOAT after he beat Machida. Everyone laughed at me.

Who's laughing now?

 

[Tito Tapped]

Khabib has been vastly more dominant in his victories.