How Is Jones The GOAT?

[deadshot138]

His list of achievements is largely either people who were already washed when they got to the UFC, eventually middleweight, actually middleweight, or ended up being mediocre. Id say his best win is DC 1. Couldn't finish Anthony Smith. Lost to Reyes according to anyone with brain activity. Got beat into the ICU by Gus. Even the Gane win has aged poorly given his last fight. And don't even mention Stipe.

Add the steroid and crime suspensions and this dude has no business being in the GOAT Discussion

 

[RockyLockridge]

ok who is

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Ask GSP and Khabib why they think that.

 

[Tweak896]

Now you can deconstruct Fedor, GSP, and Silva's opposition and reach the same conclusion. There's never any perfect goat yet.

 

[Skarsgard]

His heavyweight legacy is trash, but he's absolutely the GOAT at 205.
Every single champion has some fluffy wins in their legacy, regardless of how talented they were/are.
If you want to take out questionable tests and failures, you're pretty much left with MM.

 

[Chillez]

Jones heavyweight run was a joke but he’s easily the GOAT at 205 and it’s not close. I strongly dislike the guy but he’s in conversation as the best of all-time however I still have Fedor as my GOAT.

 

[RockyLockridge]

If you want to take out questionable tests and failures, you're pretty much left with MM.

Who is a clear as day top 3, but some people on this very website we share will do disgusting things like put khabib over him

 

[Chillez]

Who is a clear as day top 3, but some people on this very website we share will do disgusting things like put khabib over him

Khabib lack of longevity and title defenses hurts his on my list I prolly have him ranked 6th or 7th.

 

[PaulieVegas27]

Because he's not.

 

[Gamer2k4]

His list of achievements is largely either people who were already washed when they got to the UFC, eventually middleweight, actually middleweight, or ended up being mediocre.

That's a funny way to say "former champions, former heavyweights, and fighters in their prime."

Couldn't finish Anthony Smith. Lost to Reyes according to anyone with brain activity. Got beat into the ICU by Gus. Even the Gane win has aged poorly given his last fight. And don't even mention Stipe.

The fact that you have to treat wins as losses to even have an argument is why he's the GOAT. When you're so successful that people literally have to complain about how you didn't finish a fighter in about the most one-sided championship fight we could have seen, yeah, you've got a claim for greatness.

 

[Thy]

cause they good at running away. u ever see a mountain goat climb? shits amazing.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

His list of achievements is largely either people who were already washed when they got to the UFC, eventually middleweight, actually middleweight, or ended up being mediocre. Id say his best win is DC 1. Couldn't finish Anthony Smith. Lost to Reyes according to anyone with brain activity. Got beat into the ICU by Gus. Even the Gane win has aged poorly given his last fight. And don't even mention Stipe.

Add the steroid and crime suspensions and this dude has no business being in the GOAT Discussion

Idk man. If you were there during the come up you get it. The LHW division was bonkers and was always guys trading wins and going on short runs only to get stopped. Then john came in and became LHW daddy and just kept going. His variety of skills really felt like one of the first complete MMa guys

 

[markg171]

Man really shitting on Smith, Reyes, and Gus, as though the other candidates don't have actual losses, and far worse than maybe possibly a 48-47 loss.

Sherdog makes zero sense if you think any of that is worse shit than stuff like getting KO'd by a LW, subbed in 60 seconds, KO'd in 13 seconds, losing to unranked fighters, etc.

 

[b00tysweat]

"don't even mention Stipe"

lol ok. let's not mention Jones defending his 2nd belt against the GOAT HW

brings up Gus fight, how did JJ vs Gus 2 go?

 

[ultra321]

ok who is

Khabib GOAT
/Thread

 

[Söze Aldo]

ok who is

GSP.

It's gaslighting for people to act like there are no other GOAT candidates but Jon. Aside from GSP Mighty Mouse is also a contender.

In MMA in general there is also Fedor.

If someone wants to personally rank Jones as their GOAT, fine, but he's not the only one with an argument.

 

[Skarsgard]

"don't even mention Stipe"

lol ok. let's not mention Jones defending his 2nd belt against the GOAT HW

brings up Gus fight, how did JJ vs Gus 2 go?

Don't pretend that Stipe win was any better than if they dragged Anderson up to fight DDP.
It was against a retired arguable GOAT and he still looked underwhelming doing it. And that's fine. Jones was clearly nearing retirement and had lost a few steps.

Gus 2 is a massive asterisk. He failed his test, but they were able to move the venue and get a future employee to come up with a highly disputed theory to save the event.

 

[Last Falconry]

it's like "the secret". if you get the dumbest people alive to say something over and over again eventually enough people will agree with you and it will come true

 

[b00tysweat]

Don't pretend that Stipe win was any better than if they dragged Anderson up to fight DDP.
It was against a retired arguable GOAT and he still looked underwhelming doing it. And that's fine. Jones was clearly nearing retirement and had lost a few steps.

Gus 2 is a massive asterisk. He failed his test, but they were able to move the venue and get a future employee to come up with a highly disputed theory to save the event.

Underwhelming while winning via spinning back body kick? lol ok let's see you throw that strike, feel free to upload a video

you avoided mentioning the outcome of jj v gus 2.

 

[m249viking]

Jones is absolutely not even close to goat. All the other contenders faced their opponents on an even playing field. Jones was never held to the standards that his opponents had to meet.