Taking an objective look at his career, he beat up mostly undersized guys, MWs (even lost to a few, Frank Shamrock) and a WAY over the hill Ken Shamrock X 3. Ortiz’s primary rivals Chuck and Randy destroyed Ortiz when they matched up in their Primes. I know their will inevitably be the simpletons that will jump on this thread and call Ortiz a “legend” and that he carried the UFC in the early days. But if I recall correctly, Ortiz avoided fighting Liddell for like 3-4 years and fought guys like Elvis Sinosic and Patrick Cote?? I would say Ortiz ranks behind guys like Serraldo Babalu and definitely Machida in the all time UFC LHW greats. What say you?