Super confused about how this went off the rails. I'm not even sure what we disagree about. I thought we were just having a conversation. Didn't mean to dismiss you.Ok. So you’ve made an honest analysis of his striking. Cool. And when confronted with a differing opinion of someone who was in the cage with him, you are faced with two choices: work that different opinion into your hypothesis, or dismiss the opinion.
I was working with you thinking you’d do the former.
Apparently you’ve chosen to do the latter.
I suppose he’s just a dirty fucking liar, eh?
There are a few different versions and the titles are in Russian. I'll find the ones I used and link them to you soon.Name of the song?
You didn’t dismiss me. You dismissed Al I.Super confused about how this went off the rails. I'm not even sure what we disagree about. I thought we were just having a conversation. Didn't mean to dismiss you.
Oh gotcha!You didn’t dismiss me. You dismissed Al I.
I'd put his stand up as average based on his good defense.Everybody is right, his standup is below average. The thing is fighters fear him on the ground and overcompensate for preventing take downs and despite pretty poor technique he does hit hard.
The fight is truly a grappler vs striker matchup in the purest form. I would expect Khabib to immediately work takedowns or attempt to putt Conor against the cage and attempt to grind him out. If he thinks he can start out kickboxing and resort to takedowns later I think he's getting his lights shut off. Conversely, I think if Khabib gets McGregor down he gets dominant position and just punishes him and maybe even gets a submission.
This fight is fucking crazy.
I re-watched all of Khabib's fights yesterday and had mixed feelings about his striking. A lot of people talk shit about it, and it's definitely not especially clean, but I also think there's something very effective about his unique style.
What do you guys think?
Iaquinta said:
“His standup was really good. I felt like I was a step behind him, just from the first two rounds of trying to get up and stay against the cage, he was kind of wearing on me a little bit. So I felt a little behind, but his jab is good. Every time I tried to let so combos go, he’s awkward, he’s got like the Russians — it’s just a different style of boxing. They were saying he’s got his head up. I connect with everybody. ... It was hard to get to him. He’s tough, he’s tough. He’s got his own style. He’s awkward. Maybe it doesn’t look like it from the outside, but, he’s definitely, he’s fucking tough man. I knew we had a mutual respect on the standup when it was going back and forth, he was definitely worried about my power shots. But he kept me away with his jab and his movement was a little awkward and good.”
If you watch the fight, Iaquinta didn't seem to be reacting to Khabib's jabs AT ALL. I like Iaquinta, but I don't put much stock into his judgment tbh.
So if his def is so bad, why have we never seen a solid shot connect? Never even as much as a bloddy nose. He has faced several good strikers.. But it didnt matter. Conor is the best striker he has faced.. No doubt. That ssid conor has to constantly worry about being taken down. His lead leg is close to khabibs right arm being a southoaw, which makes it less distance for khabib and easier to shoot. The reach advantage is there for conor, but so was it vs chad.. And chad landed several good shots and even busted conor open..in addition to taking him down 4x. Khabibs gas is far better than chads was in that fight. I expect khabib to pressure and take conor down pretty easily.Anyone that says it’s anything but rudimentary has no clue. It will only work against guys that aren’t efficient strikers themselves. Watch how he lunges forward with that uppercut.......his hands are down. Watch how he lunches forward with jabs, his Def hand is down. He does that against Connor he is going Night night. Whenever I see a fighter with his hands down when throwing or circling, I wonder how good the coaching is....it’s striking 101....
These guys remember Khabib getting hit by MJSo if his def is so bad, why have we never seen a solid shot connect? Never even as much as a bloddy nose. He has faced several good strikers.. But it didnt matter. Conor is the best striker he has faced.. No doubt. That ssid conor has to constantly worry about being taken down. His lead leg is close to khabibs right arm being a southoaw, which makes it less distance for khabib and easier to shoot. The reach advantage is there for conor, but so was it vs chad.. And chad landed several good shots and even busted conor open..in addition to taking him down 4x. Khabibs gas is far better than chads was in that fight. I expect khabib to pressure and take conor down pretty easily.
this is like the 3rd time i've seen this exact post from you.Gassed McGregor is one of the worst strikers I've ever seen. Loses all power and defense and stumbles around like a drunk.
If Khabib gasses Conor early he could very well fuck him up on the feet.
Especially considering Conor will have to adjust his stance to defend the takedown.
I think Khabib will just spam singles and chain wrestle all night though.
Whenever I see a fighter with his hands down when throwing or circling, I wonder how good the coaching is....it’s striking 101....
MMA, yes. It is not near as uncommon in Boxing. In fact, there are really few seriously skilled Boxers that do NOT practice avoiding head shots with head movement, even occasionally binding the fighters arms in the lower position so that they CANNOT use their hands to block. Great head movement in Boxing REQUIRES that they learn to defend head shots with hands down!
Not sure if you do not consider Boxing (striking) but, Boxing 101.
Bas wasn't bad with head movement, but I do not recall him dropping his hands often.Very few MMA fighters have good head movement. But I would say most boxers do keep their hands up as well. Some don’t need to because of their speed and movement. Maybe only a prime Anderson had that skill. Most MMA fighters eat punches. Bisping is almost bling because of it.
He's been hit by some solid shots. The most significant was
These guys remember Khabib getting hit by MJ
Iaquinta hit him a few times also
Something really epic about that song. I heard a different version of it before on a highlight video and it blew me away.
Name of the song?