How does Hendo pack so much zip in his punches when he is a smaller middleweight?

[Zuni]

Then why doesnt Brock hit harder than any other fighter?

And why did Anderson KO Forrest when Rampage could not?

And why did Bruce Lee hit harder within 2 inches than most current HW MMA fighters hit period?

You seem to be confused as to what generates punching power.

 

[gruber]

Not taking anything away from Henderson with that. I just think it's more accuracy and the will to do it rather than actual power. When I think of pure KO power, I'm more impressed with Rampage/Wand3 and Chuck/Couture.

Are you serious? Rampage hasn't KOed anyone in 4 years. Compared to someone like Hendo who has been knocking heads on a consistent and recent basis.

 

[MythBuster]

when you been fighting for long as he has, you learn how to throw a punch pretty good.

 

[Andre Xiong]

He's "heavy handed", but so are most guys. I don't think it's STRICTLY a matter of power, nor do I think he's quite the KO artist people make him out to be. The Bisping KO was a combination of perfect timing, Hendo selling out and putting his whole body into a very accurate punch, and Bisping walking right into it.

The real difference is that Henderson is willing to load up and throw that big haymaker where most fighters will not due to the fear of being countered. The punch that landed on Bisping would KO anybody, and in theory, could be thrown by nearly every other 205+ fighter with similar results. The willingness to fire it is what sets Henderson apart. In comparison, I'd use Rashad Evans, who is NOT known for heavy hands, but was able to land a similar KO against Chuck.

Not taking anything away from Henderson with that. I just think it's more accuracy and the will to do it rather than actual power. When I think of pure KO power, I'm more impressed with Rampage/Wand3 and Chuck/Couture.

Stats speak and Hendo has the (T)KO stats to back it up. 4/5 last wins were KO. The 2 fights that were not KO, Shogun-win and Shields-loss, Hendo was still very close to knocking them out.

Guys like Jake Shields, Jon Fitch, Sherk, Bisping, will almost never get the knock out no matter how hard they swing so to say the opposite--that guys like Hendo only get it because they wing it, is false.

 

[Dalarna3]

He doesn't hit that hard at MW; most of his KOs are at LHW.

 

[Da Wolverine**]

He was a wrestler which means he has built a strong core. He is naturalklky very strong as well. A good combination.

He also throws the punch with with his weight behind it. Notice his punches are not just "arm punches".

He also has power tendons, one of the main mechanics of being a heavy hitter (which is why you see skinny dudes who have scary punching power).

 

[gruber]

You lost me at 'power tendons'

 

[Da Wolverine**]

1.) Force = mass x acceleration. Hendo makes up for smaller fist/arm with speed (Brock would be the opposite, for example).

2.) Technique: beautiful punch = momentum from toe -> knee -> hip -> shoulder -> fist. Some guys have it and some don't. Hard to train, possible, but extremely hard to train.

Not for a Boxer. But hard to train in general yes.

 

[Karelinator]

when you been fighting for long as he has, you learn how to throw a punch pretty good.

Unless your name is Jake Shields, I guess.

Guys like Jake Shields, Jon Fitch, Sherk, Bisping, will almost never get the knock out no matter how hard they swing so to say the opposite--that guys like Hendo only get it because they wing it, is false.

Well, actually those guys (maybe save Sherk) pretty much never swing it hard, period.

Bisping is obviously good striker, but completely different stylistically, he never really wings it hard.

Even when he was bombing away on Rivera or Mayhem, he mostly was rotating his upper body in somehow awkward way.

Very quick and neat, and works for him, but not that powerful, especially when he does it.

 

[Packers**]

And i think you are a bit delusional thinking size/strength doesnt translate at all to punching power. It certainly isnt the only factor or even the most important, but to say that the average HW doesnt hit as hard as the average MW would make you "sound" like a retard.

Why was sound in quotations?

Im not delusional, I just know better. There is a lot that goes into striking power, but size is not one of them. While it is true that training will make most people experience gains in muscle size, a basic course in phys ed will tell you that its not always the case.

Anderson hits harder than most LHWs.

Is this because he is larger? NO

Is it because he doesnt experience dramatic size gains from his training? YES

The only connection between top level striking power and muscle size is that most people gain size when training. The size is not a contributing factor to the power generated in a punch, rather is a result of the training.

Simple cause and effect.

You see the two effects of training and seem to think that one is a contribution to the other when in fact the training is the cause for two separate effects(size gain/striking power) which are not related to eachother

Its like saying that price is a contributing factor to the quality of an item.

While the cost of an item is usually related to the quality, raising the cost does not raise the quality of the item as cost is an effect of the quality, not a cause in any part.

 

[n1xx0n]

gomi used to punch like a middlewight for his size. some people are just born strong punchers

Yeah, like a middleweight "for his size". Technique is wonderful, but you're being being ignorant if you believe size doesn't matter.

Would hendo hit as hard if he were 2 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter? likely not.

 

[Da Wolverine**]

He's "heavy handed", but so are most guys. I don't think it's STRICTLY a matter of power, nor do I think he's quite the KO artist people make him out to be. The Bisping KO was a combination of perfect timing, Hendo selling out and putting his whole body into a very accurate punch, and Bisping walking right into it.

The real difference is that Henderson is willing to load up and throw that big haymaker where most fighters will not due to the fear of being countered. The punch that landed on Bisping would KO anybody, and in theory, could be thrown by nearly every other 205+ fighter with similar results. The willingness to fire it is what sets Henderson apart. In comparison, I'd use Rashad Evans, who is NOT known for heavy hands, but was able to land a similar KO against Chuck.

Not taking anything away from Henderson with that. I just think it's more accuracy and the will to do it rather than actual power. When I think of pure KO power, I'm more impressed with Rampage/Wand3 and Chuck/Couture.

This is all bullshit.

Hendo has been known for having brutal KO power from the get go. Nothiung to do with your over observation and denial in his ability.

Everyone that gets tagged either gets knock out or in the least knock down and temporarily hurt.

That is not coincidence.

 

[n1xx0n]

Why was sound in quotations?

Im not delusional, I just know better. There is a lot that goes into striking power, but size is not one of them. While it is true that training will make most people experience gains in muscle size, a basic course in phys ed will tell you that its not always the case.

Anderson hits harder than most LHWs.

Is this because he is larger? NO

Is it because he doesnt experience dramatic size gains from his training? YES

The only connection between top level striking power and muscle size is that most people gain size when training. The size is not a contributing factor to the power generated in a punch, rather is a result of the training.

Simple cause and effect.

You see the two effects of training and seem to think that one is a contribution to the other when in fact the training is the cause for two separate effects(size gain/striking power) which are not related to eachother

Its like saying that price is a contributing factor to the quality of an item.

While the cost of an item is usually related to the quality, raising the cost does not raise the quality of the item as cost is an effect of the quality, not a cause in any part.

That's complete horse shit.

So you're saying "heavyweights dont hit harder because theyre heavyweights, they BECAME heavyweights because they trained to hit hard".

Rofl k

 

[Da Wolverine**]

Why was sound in quotations?

Im not delusional, I just know better. There is a lot that goes into striking power, but size is not one of them. While it is true that training will make most people experience gains in muscle size, a basic course in phys ed will tell you that its not always the case.

Anderson hits harder than most LHWs.

Is this because he is larger? NO

Is it because he doesnt experience dramatic size gains from his training? YES

The only connection between top level striking power and muscle size is that most people gain size when training. The size is not a contributing factor to the power generated in a punch, rather is a result of the training.

Simple cause and effect.

You see the two effects of training and seem to think that one is a contribution to the other when in fact the training is the cause for two separate effects(size gain/striking power) which are not related to eachother

Its like saying that price is a contributing factor to the quality of an item.

While the cost of an item is usually related to the quality, raising the cost does not raise the quality of the item as cost is an effect of the quality, not a cause in any part.

WTF are you talking about.

You sound more ignorant trying to sound smart than anything.

Size has a lot to do with punching power if you have the ability to throw a punch with perfect technique. Even then, Bob Sapp would do much more damage with a sloppy punch than Silva would with a perfectly aim punch.

And one only gains size frok training if he lifts heavy weights or does heavy set strength and conditioning.

LOL @ This guy.

 

[Packers**]

This is all bullshit.

Hendo has been known for having brutal KO power from the get go. Nothiung to do with your over observation and denial in his ability.

Everyone that gets tagged either gets knock out or in the least knock down and temporarily hurt.

That is not coincidence.

And the part about "unwillingness to risk throwing the big punch" as a contributing factor to other fighters not scoring KOs is the worst.

What a load....

 

[Da Wolverine**]

Then why doesnt Brock hit harder than any other fighter?

And why did Anderson KO Forrest when Rampage could not?

And why did Bruce Lee hit harder within 2 inches than most current HW MMA fighters hit period?

You seem to be confused as to what generates punching power.

Holy shit man go smoke some weed or something.

The two inch punch is a deception punch which is thrown with the whole weight of the body behind the punch while moving your body forward with the arm.

Look at the six inch punch thrown from a stationary Seth as Kimbo ran to him. No different.

If a HW learns to do the two inch punch he would obviously do more damage than Lee did because more weight would be behind that punch.

 

[Packers**]

WTF are you talking about.

You sound more ignorant trying to sound smart than anything.

Size has a lot to do with punching power if you have the ability to throw a punch with perfect technique. Even then, Bob Sapp would do much more damage with a sloppy punch than Silva would with a perfectly aim punch.

And one only gains size frok training if he lifts heavy weights or does heavy set strength and conditioning.

LOL @ This guy.

Thats not true. Muscles tearing is what causes size gains, excersize causes muscle tears.

While lifting weights will cause more immediate gains, heavy bag training still causes musles to tear, which over time for most people causes gains in size.

idiot.

 

[Stannis**]

Then why doesnt Brock hit harder than any other fighter?

And why did Anderson KO Forrest when Rampage could not?

And why did Bruce Lee hit harder within 2 inches than most current HW MMA fighters hit period?

You seem to be confused as to what generates punching power.

Bruce Lee was an actor not a fighter.

He would lose to Andy Wang.

 

[Boks]

Why was sound in quotations?

Im not delusional, I just know better. There is a lot that goes into striking power, but size is not one of them. While it is true that training will make most people experience gains in muscle size, a basic course in phys ed will tell you that its not always the case.

Anderson hits harder than most LHWs.

Is this because he is larger? NO

Is it because he doesnt experience dramatic size gains from his training? YES

The only connection between top level striking power and muscle size is that most people gain size when training. The size is not a contributing factor to the power generated in a punch, rather is a result of the training.

Simple cause and effect.

You see the two effects of training and seem to think that one is a contribution to the other when in fact the training is the cause for two separate effects(size gain/striking power) which are not related to eachother

Its like saying that price is a contributing factor to the quality of an item.

While the cost of an item is usually related to the quality, raising the cost does not raise the quality of the item as cost is an effect of the quality, not a cause in any part.

Muscle size and power must be related. Why would muscles get big when you train weights otherwise? Some evolutionary advantage that nobody dicovered yet ?

 

[sirchadwick1]

Hendo can barely make 185, he's a natural LHW. Some dudes can just throw from their ass(haunches) efficiently.

Another guy that comes to mind... well, not always efficiently.