You don't know what you're talking about.
It's only a "poor fight" if you don't know what you're watching. It's a fight between 2 wrestlers who chose to fight standing up because both knew their opponent's wrestling was so good it's not even worth trying to take him down.
These guys don't look special? Yeah, I guess if you're watching MMA for the first time, they're not gonna look special since they are wrestling experts and not kickboxing experts. However, throw in there a kickboxer who's only trained kickboxing and the guy would get finished in under 1 round. Cormier and Miocic don't need to look special, they ARE special.
The fight was incredibly poor, I don"t know what"s special in Cormier and especially Miocic. And here Cormier was in worst shape of his life. Ok, he has this issue but don"t let him fight for the crown. I respect Cormier though, just that he"s not a huge fighter. Maybe for Dana, who sells donuts.
Fine, if you want to lie yourself, soon Tony Johnson and Volkov will fight for the UFC"s belt:
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- Verhoeven
- Ben Saddik
- Adegbuyi
- Hari
- Wilnis
- Rigters
- Cătinaș
- Khbabez
- Plazibat
- Marshall
- Mahieddine
- Kryklia
- Londt
- Aygun
- Andrei Stoica
- Bogdan Stoica
- El Bouni
- Kwasi
- Samedov
VS.
- Miocic
- Ngannou
- Blaydes
- "Rozenstruik"
- shadow Overeem
- "Ciryl Gane"
- "Volkov"
- grandpa dos Santos
- "Oliynyk"
- some "Blagoi"
- some poor Polish "Tybura"
- Moldovan "Spivak", hahahaha
- more than a grandpa, Arlovski
Disaster of a division in MMA.
zimmerman just fought.
He's only 34. But yes, please tell me about how bad cormier looks at 41.
This is the shadow of Zimmerman, please check his record. Check the real Bonecrusher, Zimmerman will probably retire due to injuries and is fighting now like a bum losing to the worst opponents:
Zimmerman still lost twice to Ghiță by KO and failed to become a champion anywhere, but in prime he was over the level of any Heavyweight now in UFC. I would say Cormier is interesting, but stop overrating him so much.
Gustafsson was a very overrated fighter. Seeing now Cormier won the belt by defeating Oezdemir and Tony "Hamburger" Johnson, this is unreal.
Oezdemir was nothing than a poor kickboxer, Rozenstruik average who lost by KO to any top kickboxer, and Tony Johnson on stand-up rules lost in 1st round to a 4th-tier Polish.
Contradict me, 1 on 1 on stand-up rules, not on the ground! What? Punching and striking is not important for the MMA "artists"? The difference is huge in favor of kickboxing. Not to mention in the US you have the boxing, you could use it well.
When the level of stand-up fighting is so poor in the UFC, I can"t take it seriously. And Adesanya is dominating it like crazy, he"s not even a MMA fighter...
Saki is a noob on the ground, maybe you want now the kickboxers to learn MMA, but in fact stand-up fighting is part of the both sports!
I still think MMA talent pool is bigger than the Kickboxing talent pool, but I wonder if any MMA guy could go into Kickboxing or Muay thai (70 kg and under) and go 20-0 undefeated, like Adesanya did. Maybe if they cherry pick their opponents. In kickboxing Adesanya would have a good chance of beating every top guy at his division, but they would probably also beat him. If Alex Pereira stops fighting at 85 kg, then it might be the easiest division to dominate in. In Muay Thai it's even tougher, to reach P4P level, they would have to fight almost every month and come out on top in most of their fights.
Not at all, I have just posted the Heavyweight pool. The HW division in Kickboxing is reborn. UFC roster is very, very short, plus they can"t even sign more fighters because they"re all crap.
Bellator as talent has been never even close to Superkombat. Leave alone much greater It"s Showtime!
It"s all overrated American crap, dependent ON AMERICA ONLY. Plus Brazil.
MMA is a non-expanded sport in the world, Europeans and Asians penetrating now into UFC means the Americans and the Brazilians are at a very bad level and there is huge lack of good fighters. I totally know the poor level in European MMA, but also in ONE and Asia. Besides Russia, nobody really gives a fuck about this sport in Europe. Sure, there are practitioners, but they are noobs.
Sure France goes to MMA because they have started to be crap in kickboxing. I haven"t seen a Swedish kickboxer since almost 2 decades now, and Moldova in MMA is really poor (well, not in this poor European MMA).
Simply you can"t compare the number of practitioners from kickboxing to MMA. MMA is crap outside the America. Besides Russia, but Russia is also not huge, currently in any fighting sport. I think they probably still do the best in boxing. Russian boxers are good.
If you think professional boxing is dead in the US, I would rather watch boxing than MMA. And I still think both are crap right now. I used to be a huge boxing fan.
I am amazed by the Americans that they don"t migrate to kickboxing. Is it so important to see mediocre Americans winning titles in MMA? Moreover, your Americans are disappearing in the UFC.
If Derrick Lewis is the future of UFC, I will retreat myself. He"s even more crappier than Ngannou. He lost to a pensioner like dos Santos. I was huge fan of Cain Velasquez and even dos Santos a bit. At least Cormier knows when to retire. Blaydes, another "huge" heavyweight. ) Winning poor fucks like Omielanczuk, Oleinik and all those "elephants". No wonder Mark Hunt retired decades ago in K-1 "impressed" in MMA!
Sure, the UFC heavweights of very old age, still have the puncher"s chance. But in fact they barely move. And this Overeem, he hasn"t invented himself lately in UFC, he"s just a shadow of the fighter he was in K-1. And yeah, like you said, Zimmerman lost to a 3rd tier Serbian. Could easily also fight in the UFC, against Arlovski for example. Arlovski is like 60 years old, and fought in prime 40 years ago.
Why didn"t Dana retire these elephants? Simply because MMA has no roster. And because they are slow as fuck and hugely far from their primes, but they still have the chance of the punchers.
