how do you guys determine your weight class?

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    beat...people...up? Orange Belt

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    I just lost weight to drop from one weight class to the next-lowest and feel like I have good momentum going in my diet and feel I can continue it; it is not really a diet per se but just improved adherence to avoiding processed foods and consistently weighing/measuring.

    Or should I hang out where I am? My energy for training is usually fine but I do feel fairly hungry most days. My concern is that it will catch up to me.

    I'm less curious about what I specifically should do and more interested in how everyone else decides. Do you just aim at the lowest weight you can attain?
     
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    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

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    In the long run you do.

    You compete at a weight you are most strong and athletic at, then if you feel you want a competitive edge, try one lower. If it feels good, then by all means, if your performance suffers then its not the right one. Keep in mind, that when you're fight ready, even though your body is hurting, you won't feel it due to excitement, adrenaline, etc. My old coach used to force me to go down to 140-142 (depending on the sanctioning body), and while I was excited and fight ready, I thought it was okay, when in fact it wasn't. Once I started doing test cuts, I realized how crap I was performing and made sense why I ran into gas issues. I'm usually lean at 165, and dropping to 140-142 was too taxing.

    So long story short, it takes time to find your "style", and optimal weight. I would start with a weight class where you're lean, and performing well, so to ball park it, when your bodyfat is down to 10-12%
     
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    Cool thanks. I'm female, so 10-12% body fat would be too low for me. I think 16% is the lowest I would want to get.

    I had a coach in a different sport who always encouraged me to lose weight at all costs and it harmed my health, so I'm wary of that. My current coaches in BJJ say that I don't have to drop a weight class as I am already strong for the class I am in, but they say that if I can do so healthily and stay strong, why not? I'm continuing to lift weights outside of grappling to hold onto muscle.

    So, my conern is--you say it depends on style--I'm the type to do a ton of pressure passing and wrestling and rely a lot (too much) on out-muscling my opponents even if they outweigh me by 15 or more pounds. One fear is that I will lose strength if I drop too low and thus, lose this ability. I guess I'll see. In theory, I should be even more disproportionately strong in a lower weight class.
     
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    Manlet confirmed.
     
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    He still benches teh 275...
     
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    Maybe stones even?
     
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    A big problem with coaches who advocate always going lower and big on getting in the smallest weight-class as possible, is they're looking at their ammys with a pros perspective.

    It's good you're with a gym that looks to get your best performance rather than substituting numbers in and expecting you to do so because they heard Joanna Jedrzejczyk did it. If you can perform at your best while being competitive at a lower class, then yeah, thats great. If not, then it's not good, at least in this stage. In the future when your body adjusts and matures to the work capacity, strain, wear and tear, then it'll be the time. For now, do what you can.

    I do test cuts myself, because on fight night adrenaline, excitement, all makes me think its fine. It's really shown that its not fine when you do it during test cuts. I remember the last big one I did (for my standards: 15lbs), despite re-hydrating good, I was still not 100% the next day. The day after I was, but it showed me how my mental state + adrenaline can mask my physical hindrance without me knowing.
     

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