How do you get out of that clinch on Joe Riggs?

[JustOnce]

Thoughts?

 

[leatherneck]

not get in it, or power out.

 

[JustOnce]

not get in it, or power out.

if you can't power out of it like Joe Riggs probably couldn't

 

[P4p Islam]

Stay away from it.

 

[BlueMerle]

All he had to do is take a step forward and wrap up Cammozi. Like basically step in and give him a hug. Wammo.

 

[JustOnce]

All he had to do is take a step forward and wrap up Cammozi. Like basically step in and give him a hug. Wammo.

but what if a guy steps back and pushes his neck down and break his posture

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Thoughts?

Strong Posture and quartering towards a two on one (Russian tie) or flying armbar attempt.

 

[Phrozenspite]

Punch him in the face like wand vs leben

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

not get in it, or power out.

powering out? Sounds like a recipe for catching a knee to the face.

 

[BlueMerle]

but what if a guy steps back and pushes his neck down and break his posture

The thing is, Cammozi didn't have the plum grip. He had two open hands pushing down on Riggs, and Riggs was covered up turtling. Riggs was within reaching distance so he just had to reach out and hug him.

 

[submerged88]

Punch him in the face like wand vs leben

Was coming in to say the same thing. There's gotta be a gif of that somewhere

 

[Toxxus]

Thoughts?

Assuming you can't brute force your way out and you can't roll your head under because the opponent is on you too heavily then you have a really shitty 3rd option - dive straight down and forward.

Pulling this off requires you to dive immediately after impact. If you don't then you'll dive into the next knee and knock yourself into oblivion. But basically dive in at the clinchers legs (it won't work - you won't get the takedown) and risk giving up your back or side control in order to retain your consciousness.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

but what if a guy steps back and pushes his neck down and break his posture

Best counters for Muay Thai clinch are Greco techniques like russian ties and body locks. As far as BJJ goes, a flying armbar attempt would get you out of the cinch at the very least, but may not leave you in the best position if it fails.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Stay away from it.

Absolute best defense.

 

[MEAN357]

embrace camozzi ina respectful, yet meaningful hug. Tell him you appreciate him, make sure you don't live in regret of the things that went unsaid.

 

[aerius]

Breaking that clinch is easy, provided you're not already knocked loopy like Riggs was.

Cammozi was just resting his hands on the back of Joe's head and pushing it straight down into the knee, he didn't have a grip of any kind secured on the head or neck. Joe could just take a step back and pull right out of it, there was nothing holding him in place. Cleanest way to do it would be to duck & weave out & back right after a knee lands.

 

[Phrozenspite]

Was coming in to say the same thing. There's gotta be a gif of that somewhere

Yep, or Anderson vs weidman 2 Is a good example also. Either you out clinch them or strike your way out if that doesn't work

 

[Polish Nak Muay]

He shouldn't of backed up like that. First thing is get hip to hip. If he still has the plumb he should snake his hand over the top inbetwen cammazins forearms and lever out. Really basic thing to get out of.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Punch him in the face like wand vs leben

Houston Alexander ko'd Jardine like that

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

Take a knee and then drop to your back.