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Are you implying somehow that Diaz infact outstruck GSP? Hmmm interesting
I have no idea how you got that.
Are you implying somehow that Diaz infact outstruck GSP? Hmmm interesting
Because if I include ground strikes it looks even worse for Diaz and then morons claim I skewed the results because GnP is not striking.Why only Sig strikes at range?
Because GSP is pure class. GSP won the striking game in their contest.well GSP admitted Nick wouldve beaten him had it solely been a standup contest.
Because GSP is pure class. GSP won the striking game in their contest.
I believe the only fight he was ever outstruck in was Serra 1.He outstruck everyone he ever fought.
I am confused, are you interested in debating the actual facts or admitting you are wrong and slinging ad-hom's to make yourself feel better after being outed as a moron?I'm confused.
Do both of GSP's balls fit in your mouth or do you have to put them in one at a time?
I am confused, are you interested in debating the actual facts or admitting you are wrong and slinging ad-hom's to make yourself feel better after being outed as a moron?
Maybe you forgot you said ...Debate what facts? The point of my thread was not about GSP's striking, it was about fans claiming he made good game plans. I argued that his game plans are no better than anyone else's
We all know his striking was effective, that doesn't make it less boring. He played it safe most of his career because he had psychological issues. His striking worked, but he kept it very basic because he was afraid of taking any chances.
I know you have been going around sherdog defending GSP's honor for years. There is no point "debating the facts" with someone who will never agree with negative opinions on GSP.
He wrestled almost all of his opponents and then tentatively outstruck a few wrestlers.
Maybe you forgot you said ...
No. he outstruck EVERYONE, not just a few people and only wrestlers.
He did not do that because he is the best pure striker in the division, he did it because his gameplanning was top notch.
And this is where you lose again. He out struck them. Plain and simple. He was not a striker, he was not a wrestler, he was a mixed martial artist. He wove his striking and take downs together so that you didn't know what he was doing. He could make you think he was about to strike and make you defend it, when he was actually going for a take down.I meant that his main route to victory in his fights against Alves, Condit, Serra was with his wrestling. I am aware that he out pointed most of them on the feet.
And this is where you lose again. He out struck them. Plain and simple. He was not a striker, he was not a wrestler, he was a mixed martial artist. He wove his striking and take downs together so that you didn't know what he was doing. He could make you think he was about to strike and make you defend it, when he was actually going for a take down.
His wrestling is actually pretty basic. He is not an amazing wrestler. He did not have a huge arsenal of top tier takedowns. What he had was a few that were so amazing they were near unstoppable when he was on.
Sorry, you did nothing to show poor game planning. If you have anything that shows it I am happy to look at it.
We all know his striking was effective, that doesn't make it less boring. He played it safe most of his career because he had psychological issues. His striking worked, but he kept it very basic because he was afraid of taking any chances.
Your stats are correct but it doesn't really take away from TS's point about GSP generally having 2 ways of winning; cautiously outwrestling his opponent, and cautiously outstriking them from the outside.Except what you posted is wrong. He outstruck every fightter, including strikers.
Sig. strikes at distance
GSP: 62
Diaz: 24
GSP: 84
Hendricks: 52
GSP: 26
Condit: 23
You mean he fought smart, as if he had a gameplan?Your stats are correct but it doesn't really take away from TS's point about GSP generally having 2 ways of winning; cautiously outwrestling his opponent, and cautiously outstriking them from the outside.
He wrestled almost all of his opponents and then tentatively outstruck a few wrestlers.
Minus one strike and 10 seconds, yes, he did.And even if he outlanded Condit, he didn't win that distance striking battle.
I don't agree with TS that GSP didn't have gameplans. I'm only defending the point that GSP generally only had the 2 ways of winning. If you aren't disagreeing with that then my bad.You mean he fought smart, as if he had a gameplan?