Opinion How can we truly end Mexico's cartels and drug wars?

[HomeCheese]

decriminalize it like Portugal

Yup, it's not really very complicated.

 

[Philo-Publius]

do you realize that drug use is as old as human history?

telling people to stop buying drugs is fucking retarded. you might as well tell people to stop believing in god.

You're right. Let's instead tell them to load up on that shit.

Remember the "war on drugs" in the 80's? Policing it seemed to not stop it either. I guess absolutely nothing we do matters.

Let's just put @freakroor in charge and let him pump the gas full speed down hill into oblivion. He can be like the King of the low cognition drones.

 

[ithinktheymad]

Legalization.

 

[Philo-Publius]

decriminalize it like Portugal

Mexico already did.

Pssst...it didn't work.

I just can't wait until China does a blitzkrieg through Europe (like NAZI Germany) and Portugal rises up with it's military strength to defend the free world.

Oh, wait. No. That's not going to happen because they are a bunch of low cognition drug addicts that can't defend shit. Enemies of the west want western countries to pacify themselves with drugs. That is why some eastern countries produce large quantities of Opium while it remains illegal for their own citizens to use it.

 

[freakroor]

You're right.

No i think you're right actually, we should all just hope that Americans stop doing drugs.. sounds effective.

 

[Philo-Publius]

No i think you're right actually, we should all just hope that Americans stop doing drugs.. sounds effective.

Yeah, because all I ever suggested was "hope." We can't expect anyone to be responsible for themselves anymore anyway. There are no adults left.

 

[freakroor]

Yeah, because all I ever suggested was "hope." We can't expect anyone to be responsible for themselves anymore anyway. There are no adults left.

You think real adults cant use drugs? you must be super fun to party with.

 

[Philo-Publius]

You think real adults cant use drugs? you must be super fun to party with.

"Real" adults.

Party with these guys, because these are the type of people who own you...

 

[freakroor]

"Real" adults.

Party with these guys, because these are the type of people who own you...

ok i think you've gone off the deep end. i dont even understand your post. peace bro

 

[LuchaBear]

Maybe companies should be allowed to try and make new drugs that give the same type of high as these major drugs but with out the nasty effects on one's health?

 

[LuchaBear]

Do the cartels still make a lot from selling cannabis these days? How legalization in many states effected it at all?

 

[Magooglie]

Legalize it and turn the cartels into corporations.

 

[Philo-Publius]

ok i think you've gone off the deep end. i dont even understand your post. peace bro

You should understand. Whether it's Chinese opium or whatever shit is smuggled from south of the border, people die (including children) so that individuals like yourself can get high. It's a reality. Enjoy.

 

[freakroor]

You should understand. Whether it's Chinese opium or whatever shit is smuggled from south of the border, people die (including children) so that individuals like yourself can get high. It's a reality. Enjoy.

I prefer LSD and MDMA, which are not cartel drugs. I also grow my own cannabis.

 

[genecop]

Not going to happen, to much $ on the line.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Mexico already did.

Pssst...it didn't work.

That's not as consequential as it might seem since the cartels primary market isn't Mexico, its the US and Europe. Decriminalization would have to happen there first and I think you'd have to establish some kind of domestic production pipeline to cut the cartels off from their biggest markets.

You’re absolutely right, those issues will be Mexico’s problems...for the most part.

I can see an uptick in kidnapping of U.S. citizens, if their drug business collapses. Remember, those bad hombres have people on BOTH sides of the border, and coordinating a kidnapping like that wouldn’t be all that difficult for them.

They could kidnap US citizens, certainly wouldn't be unheard of, but because Mexico and other Latin American countries are already so unequal they tend to target the oligarchs in their own countries. Which still sucks of course.

From what I know its getting harder and harder to pull off traditional kidnapping schemes like that and in parts of Latin America so its increasingly common to find ATM kidnappings where thugs just escort people at gun point to ATMs, have them pull out a bunch of cash, then split. Sometimes they'll kidnap two people and keep one as collateral until they get the money then split.

 

[panamaican]

You have to create legitimate economic opportunity that offsets the attractiveness of selling drugs. Legalize it in the U.S. and make it easier to import because drug dealers are massive distribution networks and a lot of the value of a cartel lies in their ability to transport their product. Eliminate the transportation advantage of the cartels and you take a big step towards legitimate businesses pushing the illegitimate businesses out of the market.

You're not going to get rid of cartels or drug dealers, Mexican or otherwise. People will always chase fast and easy money. You can reduce its appeal.

 

[MMAGA]

That's not as consequential as it might seem since the cartels primary market isn't Mexico, its the US and Europe. Decriminalization would have to happen there first and I think you'd have to establish some kind of domestic production pipeline to cut the cartels off from their biggest markets.

They could kidnap US citizens, certainly wouldn't be unheard of, but because Mexico and other Latin American countries are already so unequal they tend to target the oligarchs in their own countries. Which still sucks of course.

From what I know its getting harder and harder to pull off traditional kidnapping schemes like that and in parts of Latin America so its increasingly common to find ATM kidnappings where thugs just escort people at gun point to ATMs, have them pull out a bunch of cash, then split. Sometimes they'll kidnap two people and keep one as collateral until they get the money then split.

You're pretty much solidifying the notion that criminals are perpetually evolving. Also, the U.S. media may not publicize it much, but there's quite a bit of narco violence occurring in the U.S. They tend to stick to their own criminal circles, and don't mess with the common citizen as much, but that could all change once the dynamic of their "trade" is affected.

 

[vengeful]

Lol at people saying legalize it, yet they're laughing at all the needles, junkies, and shit in San Francisco streets.

Shit would be all over America

 

[MMAGA]

You have to create legitimate economic opportunity that offsets the attractiveness of selling drugs. Legalize it in the U.S. and make it easier to import because drug dealers are massive distribution networks and a lot of the value of a cartel lies in their ability to transport their product. Eliminate the transportation advantage of the cartels and you take a big step towards legitimate businesses pushing the illegitimate businesses out of the market.

You're not going to get rid of cartels or drug dealers, Mexican or otherwise. People will always chase fast and easy money. You can reduce its appeal.

U.S. citizens, within our country, sells drugs, too. From street corners to warehouse operations. Meanwhile, this country has a hell of a lot more to offer than, let's say Mexico. What's our excuse?