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  1. MrMuayThai

    MrMuayThai Yellow Belt

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    ...increase my hand speed and accuracy?

    I shadowbox some and hit a training bag other times, I want to speed up my punches and combos.

    Please let me know...
     
  2. Teknik Mao

    Teknik Mao Amateur Fighter

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    When hitting pads bags , slow down and tighten up and concentrate on relaxed technique for accuracy, then focus on the spot you are hitting and repeat the combos over and over and over again. Simple but effective combos will become much more fluid natural and quicker through repetition and teaching the brain (i.e. double jab, cross, hook, uppercut and l hook to body, r cross, l hook to head are couple of my favs).

    Secondly the more physical thing for speed is sprints half way through a decent run find somewhere to do sprints. Ideally you want to be sprinting and then resting about 20-30 metres at a time for a bout 400 metres or longer (football fields are a great place to use). When completed do not rest and continue your run at your normal speed until completion. Twice a week will improve your explosive speed even when tired a huge amount.

    Finally the volume of punches thrown will always have an influence so keep up the existing work and plenty of shadow boxing.

    Good luck mate hope some of this is useful
     
  3. SmashiusClay

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    Spot pads help a lot. Get a decent training partner to train on them with you.
     
  4. MrMuayThai

    MrMuayThai Yellow Belt

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    Thanks to you both!! I will try those exact things...
     
  5. capper

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    Im not trying to be antagonistic but I was wondering how sprinting can improve hand speed. Surely you need to train moving your arms fast to make your arms faster.
     
  6. Teknik Mao

    Teknik Mao Amateur Fighter

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    It is simple... sprinting has your body working at full capacity , you generate speed through fitness and the bodies ability to react and engage quickly. Every pro fighter uses sprints combined with technique , I would go into it further but I am writing on my cell phone . Trust me I am right , 7 years of experience in boxing (ABA) , and MT (Thailand)
     
  7. Marvin Covar

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    looks like Teknik Mao and Smashius Clay got most of it down. but don't expect your hand speed to increase significantly overnight, it doesn't work that way. practice makes perfect.
     
  8. Trudge

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    sprinting is an anaerobic excersice, this is an excercise that uses glucose in the body as oppose to oxygen, sprinting will, in no way, help you to punch faster
    you need to train the fast twitch muscles in your arms if you want to punch faster
    to do this, even though you will end up looking gay, go to a swimming pool and try to punch under water as fast as you can for 30 second bursts
    aim for speed, not power
    its very very physically demanding if you push your self hard
    you want to be stood chin deep in the water so your feet are firmly planted!
    the water actually slows your punches down and makes your fast twitch muscles work harder than they usually would
    training fast twitch muscle fibers to fire faster is probably the hardest thing to do in sport
    if you do it 3 times a week (maximum 5) you'll see a difference in 6 months
    fighters do sprints for its cardio advantages, not to make them punch faster!!!
     
  9. Teknik Mao

    Teknik Mao Amateur Fighter

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    Ok I have been looking forward to replying to this....I am always man enough to admit when I am wrong....In this case I am still NOT WRONG :D

    Firstly I will point out that the exercise described above is a definate way to attain increased hand speed through resistance training. A traditional MT exercise as well, often used in camps in the south of Thailand of which I have first hand experience.

    Now to more important matters, Trudge you are so wrong it make my brain hurt, sprinting involves getting the body to react quickly. As for the anaerobic aspect of it as an exercise I am pretty much convinced that if you are sprinting without the use of oxergen half way through a run as I described it then go back to what ever planet you came from (the sport science you quoted is inaccurate). You are engaging in sustained quick movements including that of your arms, unless when you run they dangle inanimately by your side like Napoloean Dynamite. This transfers directly into the gym in terms of engaging your oponent and being explosive combined with technique as I have already said. Anyone knows when training you suffer from fatigue it is important to be consistantly first to the punch.

    So well done for providing a good contribution for Mrmuaythai and a STFU for the load of bollocks you addressed in my direction
     
  10. stav

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    Actualy spriniting is a good way to increase hand speed. Sprinters pump the hand very fast while running in order to create a pendulum time of momentum to acheive faster sprints..........Try this in your spare time run as fast u can WITHOUT moving your hands. Then run as fast as u can while moving your hands. U will see what i am talking about.
    A sprinter is taught to pump there hands faster and faster but being RELAXED while doing it.

    I remember when i did sprint training i was taught to pretend i was holding a baby chick in both my hands while sprinting so i dont tense up and to relax the face but to pump the arms as fas as possible in order to help the legs go faster.

    So yes Sprinting does help hand speed....But interestingly Sprinters do boxing training as well to help them with hand speed hehe. Its ironic :)
     
  11. initialdproject

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    Yes I have read that sprinters train their arms almost as much as their legs. I think it was an article about Justin Gatlin. The article was saying that you can run only as fast as you can pump you arms...
     
  12. Trudge

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    don't get me wrong, its not a terrible way of training your arms, its just that there are better ways
    its just that it won't significantly change your hand speed (if it did runners would not need to box to make there arms move faster, think about it)
    if he is planning on being any good he'll need to do the sprinting so he can sustain the quick punches but it won't increase his hand speed as much as the under water thing or actually punching a bag, thats all
    your BODY uses the glucose, i wasn't on about you not breathing
    when you sprint it burns energy, the energy used is glucose, not oxygen
    i wasn't wrong, google it or somat
     
  13. Teknik Mao

    Teknik Mao Amateur Fighter

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    Yeah but what you are talking about is out of context not just in terms of the advise I originally gave but also to boxing and MT training. I am fully aware of the science of it, the problem is I think the bit you mentioned was 'googled' by you! I just dont see your point or why you are pursuing it??
     
  14. Trudge

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    to be honest, i've just read it and i don't know why it was mentioned either!
    the fella asked how to increase his hand speed specifically, not his cardio
    thats all
    the water technique and focus pads are better for that specific thing
    the running is of course vital to a good training regime but he was asking a specific question
     
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    Teknik Mao Amateur Fighter

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    This conversation is becoming futile, unfortunatley for you you seem unable to grasp the multiple benefits of any given exercise or even a conversational point. I almost admire the fact that you seem to be fighting a non existant corner just for the sake of it.

    I am only a blue in Keysi JJ and you are a brown in JJ so I will willingly listen your irritating form of advise regarding ground work. Other than that I will sign off by saying thankyou but I already know how to suck eggs mate as I have been boxing for years and fighting MT for nearly as long.

    Oh and everyone reading this understands the benefits of sprints in terms of explosive/reaction and hand speed try to understand it it terms of engaging your oponent (man this is like banging my head agains't a brick wall).

    I am done
     
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    Speed bag and Reflex Bag!!!!
     

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