How can a non-heavyweight be GOAT?

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  1. Kickwrestler

    Kickwrestler Orange Belt

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    Honestly.

    Its baffling. Everybody knows and accepts Ali as the greatest... The overwhelming majority of people have no idea who Robinson is.

    You could also argue that certain fighters were lucky enough to be optimal for particular weight classes, whereas other possibly better fighters might be stuck between weight classes due to their build... They drew the shorter straw.

    Heavyweight leaves no doubt. Weight classes just give the rest of the mere mortals a chance to shine where they otherwise wouldn't.

    Thats why I find it funny how anybody could call Jones the GOAT with Cain standing right there 15 feet away in the stands. Its the most prestigious belt for a reason, and by far and away the hardest to hold on to as history has shown us.
     
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    FictionIsReal Blue Belt

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    Bones would tear fedor apart.
     
  3. wilKO

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    Sugar Ray Robinson is Goat in boxing. You have no idea what you are saying. It's not even close. Anyone who follows boxing knows.

    So explain how he is Goat in boxing but only HWs can be Goat in MMA.
     
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    The overwhelming majority have new clue who Sugar Ray Robinson is?

    They have no clue about Boxing then and their opinion is irrelevant as irrelevant can be.
     
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    NosLliWhsoj Blue Belt

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    To me, LHW has always been the premiere division.
     
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    PolishHeadlock Putin Belt Platinum Member

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    Lol nobody thinks Ali is the GOAT.
     
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    Cain has done shit in this sport compared to Jones. Thats why.
     
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    Poor Mayweather

    all that money

    no regard
     
  9. Kickwrestler

    Kickwrestler Orange Belt

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    Because he just tore apart an old guy in his 30's with no knee cartilage who only started striking when he (Jones) was already building a pro record, right?

    LOL
     
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    Inverse Ginger Belt Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Jones would smash Cain.

    DC was a top 3 HW, undefeated and an Olympic wrestler that many people said was going to ragdoll Jones.
    Jones took him down repeatedly and battered him pillar to post.
     
  11. Kickwrestler

    Kickwrestler Orange Belt

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    Put down the xbox controller...
     
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    Inverse Ginger Belt Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    He would completely kill Cain. When Jon goes to HW and weighs 240 pounds, Cain won't stand a fucking chance in hell. He is not going to win a clinch fight, be able to take him down or win a stand-up fight.

    Jon Jones will be the HW champion.
     
  13. jimbob27

    jimbob27 Ken Shamrock Belt

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    Cain doesn't fight. You've gotta fight to prove yourself. At the moment he's still struggling to beat Tim Sylvia's records. He's been at the top for 5 years and still hasn't managed it.

    When he surpasses Timmah, maybe we can start comparing him to Jones.
     
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    Jones is by NO WAY the GOAT. Last night proved that to anybody with 1/2 a brain. He was not the GOAT before the fight or after. The GOAT debate is between GSP and Fedor, that is it. And no, Silva is not included.
     
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    I like how insignificant an opponent becomes after he is thoroughly dominated. Haters always say shit like this.
     
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    The general public thinks Einstein was the smartest man to ever live, but in reality he was not even one of the top 5 greatest physicists.

    Fortunately, Einstein was not rewarded for his undeserving honor in his lifetime
     
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    WW, MW and LHW has always been the toughest divisions imo and also the most prestigious. There's a reason why a lot of fighters weigh around 220-230 lbs (including Cain who could easily fight at LHW) and fights in HW, because the competition is way worse than the lower divisions.
     
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    No need to go full troll.
     
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    blewgums Vintage Buick Racing Bastard

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  20. Kickwrestler

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    Jones is at his optimal weight, getting a spare tire around his waist only slows him down and become an easier target. How did bulking up work out for Mir or Carwin?

    LOL

    Cain tossed 300 pound lesnar in the air, he tosses any version of Jones into the air like a cheerleader.

    EDIT:Why doesn't Jones just go up and get that belt then? Hes already 27, he's running out of prime and its downhill from here. He's done growing. Only way he stands a chance of beating Cain is with hormonal assistance.
     

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