how can a fighter offer analysis of the fight without "making excuses"

[McGangsta]

it seems like a double edge sword. When Conor says Nate was the bigger man and his punches weren't holding him that Nate was efficient and he was not. That is simply fight analysis. how can a fighter say anything constructive about the fight without making excuses?

Is the only thing a loser allowed to say is that his opponent was the better and fellate him verbally. Giving reasons =/= making excuses

 

[Arm Barbarian]

Only comments pre-approved by Sherdoggers pass the "non-excuse litmus test."

 

[BRASIL WAND]

Interestingly you started your Account Sunday i.e. the day AFTER Conor got embarrassingly SLAPPED into submission...



C'mon TS use your real account... Which one of the masses of exiled/missing Conor trolls are you? @DaffodilMcWoozy? @JagWar?


Have a backbone bruh.

 

[Mpower]

TS...you make a good point. The problem lies with whom it came from. A man who's made a point to poke fun at opponents smaller than him every chance he got. A team that would take pride in how heavy Conner was going into in his previous FW fights. A weight he actually fought at Saturday night.

So you can see why Conor should be the last person to use size as a "reason"

 

[JKS]

How?? Forrest after he lost to Jardine I believe. Rogan asked him about the fight and he said something along the lines of "i lost and there's nothing to say, thats it"

 

[McGangsta]

How?? Forrest after he lost to Jardine I believe. Rogan asked him about the fight and he said something along the lines of "i lost and there's nothing to say, thats it"

so basically you are never interested in hearing a fighter offer thoughtful analysis of the fight?

why even have interviews..

 

[CoolKnees]

Say nothing -> Gone running, hiding etc
Say something -> Excuses, be more humble etc

Just another day

 

[tnsinga]

it seems like a double edge sword. When Conor says Nate was the bigger man and his punches weren't holding him that Nate was efficient and he was not. That is simply fight analysis. how can a fighter say anything constructive about the fight without making excuses?

Is the only thing a loser allowed to say is that his opponent was the better and fellate him verbally. Giving reasons =/= making excuses

Yea but when you spend the whole pre fight camp saying the size doesn't matter and you feel better at this weight and you can pretty much beat anyone, and in the past have called your opponents midgets and then bullied them and then you complain about size after you lose to a better martial artist - you probably shouldn't be using that shit as an excuse

 

[JKS]

so basically you are never interested in hearing a fighter offer thoughtful analysis of the fight?

why even have interviews..

What??? I mentioned the only time I recall a fighter not offering any analysis and simply saying i lost and goodbye. You asked how....and that is the only one I know. What I said further proves your point

 

[Mpower]

Say nothing -> Gone running, hiding etc
Say something -> Excuses, be more humble etc

Just another day

What was said and who said it matters.

 

[giancaakos54]

it seems like a double edge sword. When Conor says Nate was the bigger man and his punches weren't holding him that Nate was efficient and he was not. That is simply fight analysis. how can a fighter say anything constructive about the fight without making excuses?

Is the only thing a loser allowed to say is that his opponent was the better and fellate him verbally. Giving reasons =/= making excuses

I'll bite. His way of responding shows low personal accountability, and therefore feels like an excuse. He stated weight was a non factor multiple times and also that no man could take his left. While he was clearly selling the fight, he said it so often, and so loud, that it sounded like a prediction.

To then use those very things as "fight analysis" feels juvenile. Had he taken a more accountability centric approach it may have prevented some of the "excuse" crying. For instance, "I was wrong about size and I over sold my power. I was unprepared for the step up in weight and my game plan was to only throw left hook bombs, I was clearly wrong. I need to get back to fundamentals and come back a more intelligent, prepared, fighter." That says virtually the same thing, but it has much more personal accountability and much less blame speak.

 

[TheNinja]

It's about what you say and how it's said. It's about whether you give your opponent credit for the win vs whether you say he only won b/c you didn't perform well.

Analysis - He beat me to the punch. I wasn't prepared for his takedowns. I thought I"d be able to dictate the pace out there but was unable to.

Excuses - I wasn't myself out there. My foot was sore. I had dental surgery 4 weeks ago and I was worried about my teeth. I was sick. I got bronchitis.

 

[Dionysos]

TS...you make a good point. The problem lies with whom it came from. A man who's made a point to poke fun at opponents smaller than him every chance he got. A team that would take pride in how heavy Conner was going into in his previous FW fights. A weight he actually fought at Saturday night.

So you can see why Conor should be the last person to use size as a "reason"

And McGregor said time and time again that Featherweights punches didn't hurt him, that featherweights couldn't take his shots, and he also said that he enjoyed fighting Nate because it was fun to fight someone who could take his shots.

Nothing he said was hypocritical.

 

[steliokontos]

When you spend a good portion of the pre fight talking about how size doesn't matter and how your opponent is out of shape, then losing in the second round and pretending he was a legitimate 170 lbs rather than a 155 lb fighter who had been partying on a yacht 10 days beforehand then your making excuses not analysing the fight.

 

[PAPERCLIP30]

TS...you make a good point. The problem lies with whom it came from. A man who's made a point to poke fun at opponents smaller than him every chance he got. A team that would take pride in how heavy Conner was going into in his previous FW fights. A weight he actually fought at Saturday night.

So you can see why Conor should be the last person to use size as a "reason"

Boom. The dude looks like death after weigh ins and makes fun of fighting smaller people.

 

[McGangsta]

TS...you make a good point. The problem lies with whom it came from. A man who's made a point to poke fun at opponents smaller than him every chance he got. A team that would take pride in how heavy Conner was going into in his previous FW fights. A weight he actually fought at Saturday night.

So you can see why Conor should be the last person to use size as a "reason"

Size is also the reason Conor wins his fights, he basically admits as much when he calls his opponents midgets and say their punches dont faze him.

Conor's commentary on fights are usually spot on

 

[VAfan]

Excuses - I wasn't myself out there. My foot was sore. I had dental surgery 4 weeks ago and I was worried about my teeth. I was sick. I got bronchitis.

i had a fractured skull.

(all time best)

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

You don't bring up any perceived shortcoming, like "the bigger man" for example, because it's bringing size up solely to proffer a reason for the loss that doesn't give credit to the victor.
You say the better man won, you say you need to train harder, you mention your shortcomings only as things you need to work on, not as things that determined the outcome of a fair fight.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

i had a fractured skull.

(all time best)

No no no
Steak tartare and quail eggs

 

[Mpower]

Size is also the reason Conor wins his fights, he basically admits as much when he calls his opponents midgets and say their punches dont faze him.

Conor's commentary on fights are usually spot on

Id have more sympathy for him if Nate were a true welterweight who dehydrated from a fit 185. Is Conor going to use that "reason" every time he loses to a lightweight? A weight he's fought at just as much as he fought at FW.