How can a fighter flow in the zone with their cornerpeople yelling instructions?

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  1. spacediver99

    spacediver99 White Belt

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    At its highest level, MMA should be a fluid affair of creative decision making. Look at Machida, Anderson Silva, McGregor, Wonderboy Thompson, and even Fedor. From all appearances, they are in the moment, masters of their own affairs, and display true art.

    Yet sometimes you see fighters whose every move is being micromanaged. Move your left leg this way, throw the right hook, etc. etc.

    Does this style of corner management ultimately hinder a fighter's development? Perhaps micromanagement is always happening, and I'm just not aware of it due which audio feed happens to be presented at any given moment. Thoughts?
     
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    Hulk Brogan Brown Belt

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    wonderboy himself said that his dad (who is his cornerman and coach) yelled to him to spin both times he kicked ellenberger, so not really the master of his own affairs
     
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    Slapchoppin Brown Belt

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    you hear it and then immediately do it without thinking about it

    thats what being in the zone is like you don't need to think you just do
     
  4. RJK

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    Maybe they're used to having people shout intructions.
     
  5. spacediver99

    spacediver99 White Belt

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    Well sure, that's one type of way to flow, but surely the highest form of the art is to make your own decisions real time. I wasn't aware that wonderboy's dad was shouting instructions, so that's interesting. I wonder about the others. McGregor vs Dennis Siver, for example, was a display of true creativity.
     
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    phatron Black Belt

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    People with a different POV can sometimes see things you can't see and offer good advice.
     
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    With most fighters who are destined for an amazing run, you'll see a dramatic change in their fighting style as they get closer to a title, when they win a title and when they defend a title.

    Some fighters that don't fit that mold are Anderson and Jones but for the most part you'll see a much more conservative fighter once they've achieved a title or when they are close to a title shot. Eddie Alvarez is a prime example and even said as much in his post fight speech.

    When the competition gets stiffer, and the possible payday gets bigger you're going to fight more deliberately than when you're just a junior.
     
  8. Lanx

    Lanx 房仕龍 Double Yellow Card

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    If the coaches/corner have the all-seeing-eye, they see more than you do. Sometimes it's great advice.
    RESET!
    dropping hands/flat footed/ looking like Ronda, you think, oh shit!

    They see an opportunity you do not, coaches/corner men aren't back seat drivers, just screaming out front kick!
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    oops

    No, rather it should be that the fighter is on cruise control, and when the corner sees a moment of opportunity or a red flag, disengage cruise control and follow commands.
     
  9. londonpride

    londonpride Yellow Belt

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    the question of someone who's never done a days training in their life.........

    so stupid it doesnt even deserve a proper answer
     
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    That's why Conor's only instructions are to "keep it nice and flowy Artem".
     
  11. SoberAwakening

    SoberAwakening Black Belt

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    It's like a music conductor conducting a symphony. The musicians aren't thrown off by the man upfront waving his hands conducting them. They are able to focus on him, while reading the music, and also focus on their instrument. Fighters are very similar in the sense that they can focus on multiple things at once.
     
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  12. FrankGarrett316

    FrankGarrett316 Forum vigilante

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    Every few pay per view events or so, I want a corner-less fight card.

    A full night of fights, in which the fighters have no corner, no yelling instructions, no corner giving advice between rounds, etc.

    Let's see who truly has good fight IQ and don't need to be told what they're doing right and wrong.
     
  13. Guardian MMA

    Guardian MMA Purple Belt

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  14. ssBaldy

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    The funniest corner thing i have ever seen was in Okami-Boetsch fight. Boetsch was being manhandled for 2 rounds, then before 3rd cornerman says to him:
    - if you hit him good he goes down!
    -yeah?
    -yeah!
    -OK coach.
    Then Boetsch gets up and KTFO's Okami with those nasty-ass uppercuts.
     
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