How Big Of A Deal Is Practicing Takedowns?

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  1. ADay2Remember

    ADay2Remember White Belt

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    this school that i'm looking at for mma/bjj has a strict no take down policy (grappling starts on knees). everything else about the school seems good, but i feel like not starting on feet is going to leave a massive whole in my game.

    would you train at a school where knee fighting is the norm if you had the option to find a school which allows takedowns in sparring?
     
  2. jcandoitbig

    jcandoitbig Green Belt

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    gotta have takedowns..look for a school where the intsructor is high level in wrestling or judo along with bjj.
     
  3. ChainFlow

    ChainFlow Brown Belt

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    Is this a serious question?
     
  4. Dogstarman

    Dogstarman Old man jiu jitsu

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    We do takedowns every class. We rarely spar takedowns as there is no space.
     
  5. German Supplex

    German Supplex Orange Belt

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    If you care to use your JJ at all and care to be in control of where a fight takes place, you need takedowns. Otherwise if you're up against a heavy guy or a striker with good defense and you can't take them down, you're gonna have to stand and bang bro!
     
  6. Thai Otoshi

    Thai Otoshi Gold Belt

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    It shouldn't even be a question.
     
  7. FinBJJ

    FinBJJ Black Belt

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    We train takedowns regularly, but it's often hard to spar with takedowns because of space limitations.

    We do occasionally have sparring with only takedowns with rotation.
     
  8. Human Bass

    Human Bass Red Belt

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    So they call themselves a MMA school but takedowns are forbidden? Ok.
     
  9. orangeclay

    orangeclay Orange Belt

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    Very odd if this is true except if the policy is just for very new folk. If this is a serious thread then the answer is nope, can't train at that school.
     
  10. Human Bass

    Human Bass Red Belt

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    BJJ schools having a takedown taboo is as stupid as Judo schools with submission taboo.
     
  11. FlexLuthor

    FlexLuthor Blue Belt

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    I trained at a school where all grappling started on the knees. This was mostly due to space/safety requirements.

    They did have a 1x a week takedown class.

    This was a big issue for me. I now train at two gyms where we start from the feet every time unless I'm working something specific or dealing with an injury. The difference in my standup game is insane.

    Bottom line, double kneeling position is retarded. I don't feel good about any gym that's starts all rolls this way.

    I get that space and safety are important, but I would rather roll 1 on 1 off and start up.
     
  12. spunkbun**

    spunkbun** Banned Banned

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    A class where you can't use a knee as a takedown counter is a wasted class.
     
  13. magick

    magick Green Belt

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    Is it really that hard to teach people proper breakfall technique?

    I mean, that shit is one of the fundamental physical thing you should know. You should know at least the basics of it.
     
  14. Spoonman7

    Spoonman7 Red Belt

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    Takedowns are essential, one is not a complete grappler unless they have some solid takedowns in their arsenal
     
  15. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    I practice takedowns some, but I don't think you need to be practicing takedowns every time you train or fighting for takedowns every time you roll. If your goal is to get good on the ground, then you can't be spending the entire roll fighting for a takedown.
     
  16. German Supplex

    German Supplex Orange Belt

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    You could be an absolute wizard on the ground, but if you can't take the fight there what good does having an amazing ground game do for you?
     
  17. Chr9is

    Chr9is Blue Belt

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    Pretty big deal, it's an ENTIRE phase of grappling that is practical not only for self-defense, but for sport as well.

    My BJJ school does a lot more take downs when a competition is coming up, unless there is space limitation it's usually 2-3x a week or so we drill take downs.

    I also get my fill from Judo class
     
  18. armtriangle

    armtriangle Brown Belt

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    What fight?
     
  19. German Supplex

    German Supplex Orange Belt

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    An MMA fight, a self defense situation, even a grappling tournament where an opponent defends and refuses to go down and then Schaubs it a little and tries to stall out by mildly disengaging.
     
  20. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

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    I'd say it is a big deal. I guess it MIGHT be okay if you're a kickass striker who uses bjj strictly to get out of the bottom and keep things standing. Otherwise, its essential.

    Why not consult with the other students to practice takedowns after class/open mat?
     

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