How bad was John Lineker?

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  1. The Natural Born Runner

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    So I've been a little preoccupied over the weekend and I'm super-late with my posts and threads - forgive me.

    Out of all of the fights at the weekend the two fights that I wasn't sure about were Cruz/Garbrandt and Dillashaw/Lineker. Part of me thought that John might have a chance at finding TJ's chin, just like Dodson did.

    The fight in a sentence, was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a "high-level fighter".

    John did nothing.

    As a Brazilian fighter, how dare you not know any Jiu Jitsu! This dude literally lay in half guard and just ate elbows, and even went SEG UFC days by throwing his own head at the elbows like he was some crazed madman who was trying to prove how big his balls were.

    Standing up he was just mindlessly swinging hooks, with no set-up, no cutting off the angles, no nothing. At least when you see hard hitters like Rumble fight, they measure and throw when needed.

    Then, he eventually goes for broke in the third round, and has some success. Only problem is, you're now throwing body shots in the third round which are really not that likely to get you the finish. Where were these in Round 1 and 2? Why couldn't you throw them then, to mix it up and get Dillashaw thinking of other shots?

    Also, TJ's takedowns looked pretty fast, but the way Lineker was on the mat in a millisecond was just disappointing. It looked like Randy Couture taking James Toney down with the low ankle shot.

    Is Lineker all hype because of his brawler style? The fact that some have been stupid enough to stand with him like McDonald and Rivera? Can he really stay at the top of that division or has the blueprint been set for future opponents?

    I was disgusted with the performance personally, because he was so bad TJ could just coast, didn't once see TJ bring out any of the tricks and flicks because it was completely unnecessary.
     
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  2. KB Warrior

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    I think the outcome was pretty predictable actually. Lineker's style is just not suited to deal with a guy like TJ.
     
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    He clearly knew jiu jitsu, also all lineker ever goes is swing and bite down on his mouth piece. Few people can defend TJ's takedowns, and the ones that do get taken down eventually. Dodson found TJ's chin when he was 12, he's like 16 now, almost a man. TJ is just a superior fighter and it's as simple as that.
     
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    He's still kind of a one-dimensional striker like was shown against Ali I guess.
     
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    LOL

    And MM is 13 I suppose.
     
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    Everyone is talking about how Cody embarrassed Cruz, but at least Cruz won two rounds. The real embarrassments of that fight card were Ronda and Lineker. Linker landed like 4 punches in the whole fight.
     
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    Imagine fighting a guy who's way bigger and faster than you. Lineker should be a flyweight but he fucked up
     
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    I actually agree with you on this, I just think style wise he is horrible. So one dimensional it's unbelievable.
     
  9. Lineker has always sucked, he just has a chin and a right hand. Do those shots not hurt him? I don't get it at all.
     
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    he's 135 dan hendo.

    not that well rounded but amazing at what he can do.
     
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    He's a superhuman being who can store extra food energy (missing weight in the process) and draw on it during fights to amp his power and chin.
     
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    There is no way on earth you've watched Linekers other fights and just discovered he's a head hunter.

    He's very athletic, powerful, and has a great chin. That combination is enough to KO many of his peers. He's going to lose to the best of the best though because of his shortcomings. He fought TJ coming off a controversial decision with Dodson, where he was a head hunter.
     
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    I think Lineker's a unique puzzle for fighters because of his insane chin and ambidextrous KO power.

    It's a fight that can easily get you assassinated if you don't fight him right, or are easily overwhelmed in the mind.

    TJ made him look like the brawler he was. He's still a good fighter, and will have some success even without his size flyweight size advantage. But TJ is an expert striker and did what he was supposed to do.
     
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    Oh I know what he is about mate, I know he's a brawler and a head hunter.

    My only shock was his lack of takedown defense, and his lack of diversity on the feet in terms of his boxing. I wasn't expecting knees or high-kicks, but this guy really took it to Dodson and I had him winning that fight. He's managed to put away some very good fighters at 135, and I thought it was more so his fight IQ and skill that was doing it.

    I'm now starting to think it was more his opponents not fighting smartly, than him being some killer.
     
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    I don't think its a lack of TD defense, he's very athletic and has a great sprawl, you just watched him fight one of the best fighters in the world who is a world class MMA adapted wrestler. TJ's a great wrestler at face value, but he's also one of the best in the entire sport at timing and diversity. Those were extremely slick take downs.
     
  16. JonesBonesJonny

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    I think Lineker beats Cody tho
     
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    Just a clash of different styles... Unfortunately for him, he was outclassed.
     
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    If wrestling isn't a part of your gameplan in any MMA fight, you're just putting yourself at a disadvantage. It's just dumb and makes no sense. Lineker looked terrible.
     
  19. Nobru

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    Tj is a very good fighter and did what he needed to do against lineker. Its not lineker fault. Yeah he could have a better tdd, but he doesnt.
     
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    from what i recall, lineker actually hit the snake quite a few with just the left right hooks. I was really hoping the snake would stay put and brawl/strike with him. but oh well.
     

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