Crime Hostages taken in church in Northern France

Killing 80 plus innocents, including children, on a national holiday. Murdering a priest inside a church. These are not ways to win people over.

Calling it right now: the next target will be a hospital or school.
 
What you propose would lead to a massive surge in terrorism. Muslims would realize they are being targeted and feel violence is now justified.


They will be able to pull of some attacks here and there but it will be much more difficult for them to plot more complacated stuff when they are running to the mountains just to hide from the Gustavos.
 
It could easily be a Sunni-Shiite feud. Sunni Arabs have no love for Syrian Shiites, as we can see in the Syrian Civil War. It wouldn't surprise me if this was an extension of that Civil War, perpetuated on Swedish territory.
Well Assyrians are christians but I get your point. There is definately tensions eminating out from Syria coming to Sweden. Try preach Daesh propaganda in an Iraqi christian dominated area and see what would happen. There are alot of reports of radical sunni islamists imposing themselfes on Shia minority in impoverished areas.
 
Canada.

again, i am willing to listen to alternative and softer measures.

fascism is cruel and worst case option-- but it does have a proven history of being able to target a reduce a groups population.


Considering a lot Muslims are stubborn and vidictive your proposal seems the only reasonable one no matter how violent and dark it is.


Lets face it look how many Islam are there in France its like what 10% of their population yet they have done extensive damage in just a year.

Now imagine if this Muslims are the one in Power?
 
That is saying nothing. I mean a comment like that doesn't elucidate any point.
salafi leaning.....most muslims are salafi leaning. Salafis are not ISIS, in fact ISIS hate them as much as anyone else. People really have no clue what salafis are. They are like orthodox Jews. Very conservative, but not violent
 
Considering a lot Muslims are stubborn and vidictive your proposal seems the only reasonable one no matter how violent and dark it is.


Lets face it look how many Islam are there in France its like what 10% of their population yet they have done extensive damage in just a year.

Now imagine if this Muslims are the one in Power?

Muslims only amount to between 5 to 10% of the population. Can only imagine what the results would be if the percentage was higher indeed.
 
Grenade attacks in Sweden, a decade or so ago, would've been unheard of, but now they've become a regular occurance. Grenade attacks. Last year they had 30 grenade attacks in just 6 months in the Muslim-dominated area Malmö, and an estimated 150 a year overall.

Off topic but 10-20 years ago a grenade attack would have been heard of in Sweden, the bikers were known for that sort of thing, the neo nazis too. IIRC the Swedish neo nazis who released vids of themseves in the socialist MPs house in Ukraine all had previous terrorist convictions.
 
Actually, their recruiting dwindles as their caliphate dwindles, not vice versa. Their international recruitment programs were at their most successful in late 2014 when they appeared invincible (to stupid, ignorant, poor, lonely, or otherwise emasculated Muslim males around the world) in the Middle East.

Yeap.

They are hoping for a reaction such as you can find in this thread. That would put some water on the wheel.

Some people should not watch the news imo. It's a proven fact that the world is better today than it has ever been yet droves of people masturbate so hard to fear porn that WW3 should be started any second now.

Self relfection is needed.
 
The only, "good news" is they won't be able to sustain this pace indefinitely. They are losing people during every attack. Not just the suicide terrorists but their support networks as well. Sooner or later they are going to run out of cannon-fodder.

The bad news is, of course, they will be able to do considerable damage until then.
the rumored/alleged number of fresh immigrants in Germany alone alone is 800k. lets say 1mil for the whole Europe. how much of them would you say are radically inclined? we dont know for sure, but seeing from the polls that % of Muslims supporting Jihad is in the dozens, I would say 1%. seems like a small number. but that is 10000 people. and that is only counting recent immigrants. as we have seen, 1st and 2nd generations havent assimilated shit and are no strangers to terrorism either.
so they are not running out of cannon fodder any time soon :(. and we have seen that they dont need network and support. they can steal a truck and kill dozens of people easily.
 
Off topic but 10-20 years ago a grenade attack would have been heard of in Sweden, the bikers were known for that sort of thing, the neo nazis too. IIRC the Swedish neo nazis who released vids of themseves in the socialist MPs house in Ukraine all had previous terrorist convictions.

Even the great Nordic Biker War only amounted to 1 dead civilian in the 90's, who accidentally died in a car bombing. So I don't think we can truly compare that phenomenon to what is currently going on.
 
salafi leaning.....most muslims are salafi leaning. Salafis are not ISIS, in fact ISIS hate them as much as anyone else. People really have no clue what salafis are. They are like orthodox Jews. Very conservative, but not violent

Most muslims are definitely not salafis although Saudi is doing an impressive job trying to impose it.
 
salafi leaning.....most muslims are salafi leaning. Salafis are not ISIS, in fact ISIS hate them as much as anyone else. People really have no clue what salafis are. They are like orthodox Jews. Very conservative, but not violent
ISIS are Salafists. Wahhabis are Salafists and do not like being called Wahhabis as they consider it derogatory. Salafists are ones who really do take the Quran and Hadiths to heart .

Muslim men who wear their robes with hemline above the ankle, sport a neckbeard and shaved or trimmed mustache are Salafist. Muslim women who wear a Niqab or Burqa are Salafist. Salafist support Islamism and Sharia law.
 
Most muslims are definitely not salafis although Saudi is doing an impressive job trying to impose it.
salafi basically means first.....all they do is follow the quraan and the prophets sunnah. Technically all muslims fall under that category when you ask them what do you actually follow. the word in itself is vague
 
Yeap.

They are hoping for a reaction such as you can find in this thread. That would put some water on the wheel.

Some people should not watch the news imo. It's a proven fact that the world is better today than it has ever been yet droves of people masturbate so hard to fear porn that WW3 should be started any second now.

Self relfection is needed.
It's also a proven fact that more Muslims means more problems...and there are still more coming. Your post is a classic case of burying ones head in the sand...with a dash of bullshit. European cities have not been this unsafe since the last world war, and the stuff that's happening now was extremely rare even 20 years ago
 
Even the great Nordic Biker War was only amounted to 1 dead civilian in the 90's. So I don't think we can truly compare that phenomenon to what is currently going on.

I wasn't comparing it, hence the off topic part, just pointing out that it's not exactly unheard of
 
the rumored/alleged number of fresh immigrants in Germany alone alone is 800k. lets say 1mil for the whole Europe. how much of them would you say are radically inclined? we dont know for sure, but seeing from the polls that % of Muslims supporting Jihad is in the dozens, I would say 1%. seems like a small number. but that is 10000 people. and that is only counting recent immigrants. as we have seen, 1st and 2nd generations havent assimilated shit and are no strangers to terrorism either.
so they are not running out of cannon fodder any time soon :(. and we have seen that they dont need network and support. they can steal a truck and kill dozens of people easily.

Hey, I'm trying to stay positive here!:(
 
ISIS are Salafists. Wahhabis are Salafists and do not like being called Wahhabis as they consider it derogatory. Salafists are ones who really do take the Quran and Hadiths to heart .
ISIS hate salifis and call them talafis....basically talkers. Salifis are conservatives who preach going back top the quraan and sunnah. They always preach about knowledge. The main thing they hate them is they say while our people are being killed every day you want to preach about knowledge and reading. Honestly you have said this in the past and who ever told you this stuff gave you wrong info. Some of the biggest scholars in Saudi are salifis and all of them are extremely harsh on ISIS and their supporters. Can you name any of the salafi scholars who support ISIS?
 
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