Hook with horizontal fist?

[GhostFighter]

Ive been teached to hook witha vertical fist but lately ive been testing the horizontal hook fist as well and it does feel more natural to me but why isnt it the horizontal fist being teached as much as the vertical one? Is the horizontal hook fist easier to injure ur wrist?

 

[rockcity]

Ive been teached to hook witha vertical fist but lately ive been testing the horizontal hook fist as well and it does feel more natural to me but why isnt it the horizontal fist being teached as much as the vertical one? Is the horizontal hook fist easier to injure ur wrist?

idk but bj penn does that so i say go for it

 

[ClampXVII]

The horizontal hook i easier to hurt your wrist if you do it wrong my trainer made me aim with my last 2 knuckles when it was preformed. I was taught that hook and had to relearn the vertical hook (we call it long hook) for body to head combos.

 

[aries]

Vertical and horizontal are taught I think just as equally. It depends what range your hook is. The shorter the range i.e. Shovel hooks to head, the more vertical the fist. Longer range would tend to more the horizontal.

 

[Ham_Roll8**]

Vertical is much better, simple test to show is put your arm where you would when throwing a hook and place your other hand on your bicep turn your wrist from vertical to horiziontal and back a few times and you will feel why vertical is better, ( unless you r a girly man and have no biceps)

 

[Ham_Roll8**]

Vertical and horizontal are taught I think just as equally. It depends what range your hook is. The shorter the range i.e. Shovel hooks to head, the more vertical the fist. Longer range would tend to more the horizontal.

Actually its the opposite, your hook is longer when your knuckles are up and down otherwise your only hitting with your pinky finger knuckle at full stretch

 

[ktrp]

There are lots of veterans who swear by each.

My trainer likes the vertical fist. He's pointed out to me that it allows a lower elbow and a little more coverage of your ribs while you throw it, plus its more forgiving of the wrist angle _within_ the plane of your hand.

When I first learned to hook, I messed around with horizontal, then moved back to vertical. At some point I may try to add horizontal again as an alternative.

I believe the vertical is a more 'classic' hook. I've heard it suggested that its easier to arm punch with horizontal. This may 'feel' more powerful, but not actually be so.

 

[DrBdan]

This is a popular topic...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/left-hook-horizontal-vertical-fist-749790/

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/horizontal-vertical-wrist-during-hook-954720/

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/vertical-fist-nonsense-467143/

My opinion is do whichever you prefer, they both have pros and cons.

 

[aries]

Actually its the opposite, your hook is longer when your knuckles are up and down otherwise your only hitting with your pinky finger knuckle at full stretch

I don't think I follow what you are saying. How could you hit with your pinky when you have a horizontal fist? It doesn't make sense.

If anything you can rotate the fist more in the same direction that your started from with vertical. So left handed you would be rotating clockwise as the range increased so that by the longest range you are going back toward vertical because your pinky is uppermost and your big knuckles are lowest.

To all long range vertical fist proponents I personally don't favour it because it so difficult to make contact with your knuckles and you end up slapping.

 

[four_three]

There are lots of veterans who swear by each.

Very true. My boxing coaches swear by the vertical fist hook; it engages both heads of your bicep when you throw it that way. I definitely prefer it that way, but even my coaches admit that it is taught different ways by different trainers.

 

[MiaWallace718]

Vertical and horizontal are taught I think just as equally. It depends what range your hook is. The shorter the range i.e. Shovel hooks to head, the more vertical the fist. Longer range would tend to more the horizontal.

^^ this

With a horrizontal fist you are able to throw longer range or overhand hooks, while a vertical fist is more apt for a close in hook to the body..

 

[Ham_Roll8**]

I don't think I follow what you are saying. How could you hit with your pinky when you have a horizontal fist? It doesn't make sense.

If anything you can rotate the fist more in the same direction that your started from with vertical. So left handed you would be rotating clockwise as the range increased so that by the longest range you are going back toward vertical because your pinky is uppermost and your big knuckles are lowest.

To all long range vertical fist proponents I personally don't favour it because it so difficult to make contact with your knuckles and you end up slapping.

If you rotate your hand so much in a extended hook like you said you would lose most of your power as when you do it the body weight which goes into hooks does not flow through, it would end up like a backhand slap.
I use vertical for all my hooks with my left the only time i use horizontal is short right hooks

 

[admbaum]

its all about preference. Do what feels right to you

 

[nomilkforsanta]

At AKA they taught me to keep my fist horizontal to protect my wrist from breaking with MMA gloves on.

Duke Roufus taught me to keep it vertical for extra power.

and this old boxing gym taught me to use use horizontal for close range and vertical for long range.

I personally stick to horizontal, because it's harder to cheat and do a "arm curl" punch in my opinion.